I may not be a reliable source, but you have just contradicted yourself, you never said if they are worthy they get powers you said who ever holds the hammer gets thor level powers, rulk held mjonlir and never gained any of thors powers apart from the lightning attacks? But thats already been stripped from mjonlir by op, so what are you talking about
Originally posted by LeonBuco666So the hammer works based on my paraphrasing?
I may not be a reliable source, but you have just contradicted yourself, you never said if they are worthy they get powers you said who ever holds the hammer gets thor level powers, rulk held mjonlir and never gained any of thors powers apart from the lightning attacks? But thats already been stripped from mjonlir by op, so what are you talking about
But seriously, use your head here. It's pretty common sense you have to be worthy. I shouldn't have to write those exact words for it to be true.
I forgot one line though, pretty close for not reading the inscription for years:
"Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor."
😂 i never said it works by your paraphrasing, you contradicted youraelf, dont act so smart, the power of thor? Mjonlir lets thor manip the weather without it he cant, op said colossos cannot manip the weather but do the basics of what you can do with mjonlir, nothing about thor changes weather he is weilding it or not apart from he can whack people with a hammer, fly and manipulate the weather
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
😂 i never said it works by your paraphrasing, you contradicted youraelf, dont act so smart, the power of thor? Mjonlir lets thor manip the weather without it he cant, op said colossos cannot manip the weather but do the basics of what you can do with mjonlir, nothing about thor changes weather he is weilding it or not apart from he can whack people with a hammer, fly and manipulate the weather
Thor's weather powers are independent of Mjolnir.
But you have to be Worthy before you get the power of Thor added to your own. Otherwise the hammer is just a large indestructible paperweight.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusthats what its being used for, already stated by op all he can do is hit, throw and fly with it
Thor's weather powers are independent of Mjolnir.But you have to be Worthy before you get the power of Thor added to your own. Otherwise the hammer is just a large indestructible paperweight.
If it's a non amped Colossus then Thor wins due to being more durable/tougher and a better fighter. You can even argue intelligence, speed(lol yeah I know... but still), and endurance.
If it is an amped Colossus it can go either way, Thor can still do it due to being a better fighter.
If Thor retains knowledge of Mjolnir its even further slanted in his favor(both scenarios).
Originally posted by LeonBuco666How in any way did I contradict myself?
😂 i never said it works by your paraphrasing, you contradicted youraelf, dont act so smart, the power of thor? Mjonlir lets thor manip the weather without it he cant, op said colossos cannot manip the weather but do the basics of what you can do with mjonlir, nothing about thor changes weather he is weilding it or not apart from he can whack people with a hammer, fly and manipulate the weather
I paraphrased an inscription, and forgot a sentence. A sentence which is common sense that you have to be worthy.
Because clearly I was absolute with that sentence and I think for a fact that you don't actually have to be worthy!!!
Use your head again.
Originally posted by h1a8
But it's still canon. Also we have the fact that Gladiator was created to be Superman's equal. A Superman clone for marvel. At the time marvel wanted to show how well Colossus could do with Superman.Colossus has strength feats of lifting tankers weighing at least 10,000 tons. He has beaten Hulk in a fight, overpowered Magneto, and has other feats to show he can at least hang with Thor in h2h for a while before losing.
Ulik, who is around Colossus level has hung with Thor (with Mjolnir) on multiple occasions.
Using Mjolnir gives him ranged attacks, flight, and amps his striking considerably. Let's not forget that Colossus has decent blunt force durability.
What is canon is that Colossus not only lost that fight, but he was ko'd by a falling building...btw lifting a tanker isn't very impressive for guys in Thor's strength cl and IIRC the only time Colossus' overpowered Magneto was in the Ult universe, which isn't canon to 616 Colossus.
Originally posted by Spire
If it's a non amped Colossus then Thor wins due to being more durable/tougher and a better fighter. You can even argue intelligence, speed(lol yeah I know... but still), and endurance.If it is an amped Colossus it can go either way, Thor can still do it due to being a better fighter.
If Thor retains knowledge of Mjolnir its even further slanted in his favor(both scenarios).
Thor actually proved to be faster then Colossus in their recent fight:
A little surprising since Colossus is one of the speedier and more agile bricks but Thor should be noticeably better even in speed I guess.
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
I refuse to carry this on with you because your missing the entore point, the Op has already stated he does not have access to the weather manip, mjonlirs main power, he only has access to striking flying and throwing, thor has next to no powers without mjonlir
Even I know that isn't true.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor actually proved to be faster then Colossus in their recent fight:
A little surprising since Colossus is one of the speedier and more agile bricks but Thor should be noticeably better even in speed I guess.
Which is one the the reasons why I said you could argue it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIf only Thor fought more fairly. I would love to see a fight between him and Colossus h2h. Even if he beats him soundly I would still love to see it. After all, he threw the hammer away against Hulk (who is more powerful than Colossus).
Thor actually proved to be faster then Colossus in their recent fight:
A little surprising since Colossus is one of the speedier and more agile bricks but Thor should be noticeably better even in speed I guess.
Originally posted by h1a8
If only Thor fought more fairly. I would love to see a fight between him and Colossus h2h. Even if he beats him soundly I would still love to see it. After all, he threw the hammer away against Hulk (who is more powerful than Colossus).
Lol.
Originally posted by Spire
Which is one the the reasons why I said you could argue it.
Okay.
