Originally posted by Kstanz
Elektra is NOT a top tier martial artist, she's good but she isn't on the same level as Iron Fist or Black Panther or even Daredevil.Bullseye has never beaten Daredevil in hand to hand, he beat him in Guardian Devil when he shot him. Bullseye is a good hand to hand fighter but new 52 Ollie is able to draw blood from characters with superhuman durability so his punches could rock Bullseye pretty hard.
I'd still give it to Bullseye in H2H but Ollie's numerous trick arrows could give him the win here.
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Elektra is standing firmly on top of Daredevil's shoulders when it comes to martial arts hierarchy. She's better than Matt. She's better than Danny. She's better than Black Panther.
Read a book.
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
😂 hercules is a top tier fighter
king pin schooled zeus when he lost his powers, your going to tell me hes not a top tier fighter?
😂 i dont agree with you at all
Are you like high or something? You actually think Hercules with no power is in the same class as Iron Fist or Black Panther?
No seriously....visualize this for a second, a depowered Hercules vs Iron Fist...now imagine how the fight would go...it ends with Hercules on the ground face first in the dirt...with Iron Fist not having to break a sweat.
Seriously..read a comic dude...
Originally posted by pym-ftwYou're right, Arsenal's mini GA admitted that Roy was better than him, probably is this is New 52 Ollie by default who's better than Roy has been in Red Hood and the Outlaws.
Yes, currently she is easily good enough to say Lester holding his own against her puts him in league with Arsenal who imo is a better h2h fighter than GA.That said she isn't elite either.
Originally posted by pym-ftwWell there's the problem with your post, Daredevil is one of the top fighters in Marvel, since he's fought Cap, Iron Fist and Black Panther without any decisive winner. Cap Danny and T'Challa would roflstomp Elektra.
Iron Fist would school everyone both of you mentioned together.Elektra is in Daredevil class but she isn't in the tops of marvel.
I'll say it again, getting owned by Bullseye, Kuruyama, Hercules, 2 shotted by Daredevil and stalemated by an injured Black Widow makes Elektra a top fighter....in the bracket of mediocre fighters...
Originally posted by Kstanz
Well there's the problem with your post, Daredevil is one of the top fighters in Marvel, since he's fought Cap, Iron Fist and Black Panther without any decisive winner. Cap Danny and T'Challa would roflstomp Elektra.I'll say it again, getting owned by Bullseye, Kuruyama, Hercules, 2 shotted by Daredevil and stalemated by an injured Black Widow makes Elektra a top fighter....in the bracket of mediocre fighters...
Everyone has low showings
Originally posted by pym-ftwSo..remind me again which one of those fights were spars? Oh yeah, none of them were
Your missing a lot of context most obvious is
Sparring /=/ Fighting.Everyone has low showings
She has more low showings than high showings, so I guess they really aren't low showings
Seriously..Elektra sucks...
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Your missing a lot of context most obvious is
Sparring /=/ Fighting.Everyone has low showings
Half the shit he cited was prior to Elektra's first resurrection, when she was merely a powerless an Olympic level assassin, and as such completely irrelevant. The rest is just uneducated nonsense. What are we supposed to infer about Elektra from he losing to Kuruyama? He was an unstoppable super powered ninja Frankenstein, who only ever fought Elektra. What conclusion can be drawn from that other than Kuruyama was a beast? It's not like he was getting tooled up by other streets. Batman getting the boots put to him by Talon isn't proof that Batman sucks, it's proof that the Court of Owls is formidable. Herc never beat Elektra, and Black Widow is a super soldier with super human attributes across the board, and that wasn't even a real fight. Just a bunch of nonsense.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftIs this guy retarded or something? Herc beat Elektra in a sword fight in his own series, and calling Black Widow's fight nonsense is a cop out, she stalemated Elektra, end of story. Calling Kurayama is a good fighter because he beat Elektra is like calling Killomonger a good fighter because he beat Black Panther. Complete nonsense.
Worst post ever posted here
Originally posted by Kstanz
Is this guy retarded or something? Herc beat Elektra in a sword fight in his own series, and calling Black Widow's fight nonsense is a cop out, she stalemated Elektra, end of story. Calling Kurayama is a good fighter because he beat Elektra is like calling Killomonger a good fighter because he beat Black Panther. Complete nonsense.
What a mook.
Herc never beat Elektra in a sword fight. He broker her sais with his magic sword, then she got a magic helm and beat Herc and Zeus up, but they took a dive. It's a nothing encounter of no relevance to speak off.
Calling Black Widows fight nonsense isn't a cop out, it's an accurate account of events. It's the same as Cap and Daredevil's brief altercation post Shadowland, there is absolutely nothing to be gathered from it. One character wanted answers, when they were satisfied, they left.
Killomonger? Eric Killmonger IS a good fighter. facepalm