Niall Brigant (True Blood) vs. Count Dooku (movies only)

Started by quanchi1127 pages

Originally posted by Sacred 117
As established, there are some forms of blast he cannot block, but he could still attempt to dodge. Accuracy is not being called into question; lethality is. It won't matter if Dooku is hit by the blasts if they haven't the offensive power to kill him. That's what needs to be determined.

Temporarily, and F. Lighting can is potentially lethal. I'm still curious as to how light blasts compare. Could you help me with that?

If he is ko'd or left vulnerable then yes he loses. Not every punch has to kill a man to win a fight.

We have never seen force lightning kill anyone on its own. Niall has a supernova blast described as hotter than the sun. I wouldn't go that far since I'm not a hyperbole worshipping Zelda fanatic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If he is ko'd or left vulnerable then yes he loses. Not every punch has to kill a man to win a fight.

We have never seen force lightning kill anyone on its own. Niall has a supernova blast described as hotter than the sun. I wouldn't go that far since I'm not a hyperbole worshipping Zelda fanatic.

Gotcha. I was wondering for that reason if this was a fight to the death. I remain undecided.

I agree with you there. I don't buy that "being described as that makes it that" bullshit.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Gotcha. I was wondering for that reason if this was a fight to the death. I remain undecided.

I agree with you there. I don't by that "being described as that makes it that" bullshit.

Do you hold the same stance with regards to hyperbole in a Zelda game ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you hold the same stance with regards to hyperbole in a Zelda game ?

I don't buy hyperbole PERIOD. Though I'm not sure what's been hyperboled in terms of Zelda, or to what extent.

"We can channel our light into a single ball of energy that, when released, will go supernova, killing any vampire it touches."

Originally posted by Sacred 117
I don't buy hyperbole PERIOD. Though I'm not sure what's been hyperboled in terms of Zelda, or to what extent.
Sacred beast, evil's bane, etc.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
I agree with you there. I don't buy that "being described as that makes it that" bullshit.

I don't want to go off-topic, but to elaborate, I'm referring to cases of inconsistent backing, such as Coldcast hitting Superman with "the force of 15 supernovas". If that were the case, shouldn't it have destroyed the moon and everything around it?! But... that's fiction-based physics for you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sacred beast, evil's bane, etc.

I'm not sure how any of that's hyperbole.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
I don't want to go off-topic, but to elaborate, I'm referring to cases of inconsistent backing, such as Coldcast hitting Superman with "the force of 15 supernovas". If that were the case, shouldn't it have destroyed the moon and everything around it?! But... that's fiction-based physics for you.
I agree. That doesn't really mean much. We see Gladiator destroy a planet but many characters take his punches with their bodies in tact.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
I'm not sure how any of that's hyperbole.
People will argue like that counts as those adjectives carry weight in a debate. It is just hyperbole.

If a claim can be proved, and the evidence backs it up, it is not hyperbole.

In this case nothing said the light orb explodes with a supernova, so its not.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree. That doesn't really mean much. We see Gladiator destroy a planet but many characters take his punches with their bodies in tact.

The same goes for Akuma breaking islands but failing to one-shot street level characters. Probably the worst case of overestimation I've seen yet.

Originally posted by BloodRain
If a claim can be proved, and the evidence backs it up, it is not hyperbole.

In this case nothing said the light orb explodes with a supernova, so its not.

'True Blood': Sookie's a Fairy Princess and 5 Other Revelations ...
www.cambio.com/.../true-blood-sookies-a-fairy-princess-and-5-other-revel...
Jun 24, 2013 - True Blood's Sookie Stackhouse (Anna Paquin) has a new title...and a ... and when it goes supernova, she can kill any vampire-but afterward ...

Dear lord.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
The same goes for Akuma breaking islands but failing to one-shot street level characters. Probably the worst case of overestimation I've seen yet.
I agree that is why people who just argue based on feats while ignoring portrayals are fools.

Originally posted by quanchi112
People will argue like that counts as those adjectives carry weight in a debate. It is just hyperbole.

As claims alone, they're meaningless, but if substantially backed, they can then legitimately carry weight.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
As claims alone, they're meaningless, but if substantially backed, they can then legitimately carry weight.
It depends but anything backed up is another story. Just because Link kills Ganondorf with the Master Seord doesn't mean it would kill Mephisto from Marvel comics.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It depends but anything backed up is another story. Just because Link kills Ganondorf with the Master Seord doesn't mean it would kill Mephisto from Marvel comics.

That would depend on Mephisto's weaknesses and such. Thorough, complete cross-examination would be needed to determine things such as that.

Based on what the Master Sword is and what Mephisto is, and what he's been hurt by in the past, it would definitely hurt him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
'True Blood': Sookie's a Fairy Princess and 5 Other Revelations ...
www.cambio.com/.../true-blood-sookies-a-fairy-princess-and-5-other-revel...
Jun 24, 2013 - True Blood's Sookie Stackhouse (Anna Paquin) has a new title...and a ... and when it goes supernova, she can kill any vampire-but afterward ...

Dear lord.

How is that not the same thing I posted? Now we just have two things saying it goes super nova, not that it is one. Though i doubt anyone here would call it a real super nova 😛

Originally posted by Sacred 117
That would depend on Mephisto's weaknesses and such. Thorough, complete cross-examination would be needed to determine things such as that.
Just because it slays one evil being that doesn't mean it kills all evil beings.

Hyperbole.