Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZSo like most of the members on this forum for like 3 years in a row?
Almost all of the ancient sith are overrated, revan included. You have no idea how many times i come across people saying revan is the strongest force user, or that Tulak is the greatest duelist ever.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
i would definitely not call myself a revan hater, i still consider him a top 20 jedi, it's just that i dont consider him a force god capable of beating the likes of luke, sidious, yoda, heck maybe even obi wan.
Revan cant take Sidious or Yoda obviously there above him.
Windu is really close could go ether way.
And Revan takes Kenobi forsure.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I would like to here your input on why revan would win. obi wan was the absolute master of soresu, where revan is not said to have mastered any forms, giving him the saber battle. im not sure about the force battle tho.
-Revan beat Malak amped by the power of 8Jedi Masters. 20by the guide. And this wasint Revan anywhere near his prime.
-Defeated Darth Nyriss who beat Scourage/Exile.
-Put Sith Emperor on his ass on a nexus.
-Best Jedi of his time.
- are you sure those were masters, or just an assumption?
- i suppose ur correct, although being arguably the 3rd best master in the golden age of the jedi order, i'd say obi-wan is well beyond nyriss's power level.
-while the emperor proceeded to absolutely barrage him with force lightning, utterly defeating him.
- cant argue with that, only thing i can say is that he was the greatest jedi in an era of relatively featless jedi other than malak and maybe a few others
none of what you mentioned dispells the fact that obi wan was a better swordmaster, although arguably revan was a better force wielder.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
- are you sure those were masters, or just an assumption?
- i suppose ur correct, although being arguably the 3rd best master in the golden age of the jedi order, i'd say obi-wan is well beyond nyriss's power level.
-while the emperor proceeded to absolutely barrage him with force lightning, utterly defeating him.
- cant argue with that, only thing i can say is that he was the greatest jedi in an era of relatively featless jedi other than malak and maybe a few othersnone of what you mentioned dispells the fact that obi wan was a better swordmaster, although arguably revan was a better force wielder.
1.masters
2.4th, and I doubt he's far beyong.
3.yeah and revan did better on a nexus then kenobi would ever do.
4.so?....dosint make Kenobi>Revan
prove he was a better saber duelist. and revan is a far better force user.
Originally posted by The Merchant
So can Vader. He can destroys solid stone walls and crush droids that hare huge. I think it depends on your interpretation whether it means force amp'd or not.
I didn't say he was better than Vader, that is where you are mistaken. But from the little info we have he's obviously the Vader-type of the Ancient Sith. They're easily comparable.
Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
I've seen far more wanking of the ancients, then of revan suprsingly. No clue what makes the ancients so "uber".
The same reason why people always assume that the older generations were better. The "good old days" mentality.
That being said, one has to admit that beings such as Ragnos and Exar Kun certainly were capable of performing feats that Vader never replicated, possibly because he simply wasn't very interested in sith alchemy.