Originally posted by carver9
The same Worm hole that Hulk tanked.?
Still, doesn't change the fact that Surfer was cut off from the Power Cosmic and so was relying on whatever stores he had before entering the worm hole.
It was a low-end Surfer on planet Sakaar, facing off against a weakened but still powerful Hulk.
Originally posted by janus77
Yep, that was pointed out too.Still, doesn't change the fact that Surfer was cut off from the Power Cosmic and so was relying on whatever stores he had before entering the worm hole.
It was a low-end Surfer on planet Sakaar, facing off against a weakened but still powerful Hulk.
Both were weakened but I think Hulk was more weakened since the disk was on him at a longer time AND Hulk battled throughout the time be suffered from the disk. His healing factor was near depletion as well and he couldn't amp. Take those abilities away from Hulk and the character is ruined.
Originally posted by janus77
Surfer was cut off from the Power Cosmic, whatever he had was what was stored prior to being KOed by the wormhole.He was physically dominating the warbound and Hulk would have had a long and hard fight to subdue Surfer if not for the destruction of the obedience disc.
I never got why a fully rational Green Scar who even at his most enraged pulls his punches, was made to KO Surfer after the disc broke. It's not as if Hulk doesn't have full control over himself when angry. Just seemed a pointless act to give a hollow "victory" over Surfer.
Still, Surfer usually fights Hulk with more appetite and guile than he does any other Earthbound superheroes.
You know that with the destruction of the disc, surfer had access to his PC and then Hulk KTFO him, right?
Originally posted by janus77
Correction, Warbound couldn't do a thing to Surfer, the only challenge was Green Scar.They attacked, they got humbled, they got scared, they said their last rites and thought on their impending demise but Hulk broke Surfer's OB disc and saved them all (from Surfer).
Originally posted by carver9
Both were weakened but I think Hulk was more weakened since the disk was on him at a longer time AND Hulk battled throughout the time be suffered from the disk. His healing factor was near depletion as well and he couldn't amp. Take those abilities away from Hulk and the character is ruined.
Hulk could still amp though, but slower than normal, remember how he held the planet together or how he jumped from the moon to the planet? When he first landed he wasn't anywhere near that powerful.
Still, they have very different mechanisms for powering themselves up/replenishing themselves.
Surfer uses ambient PC, within the universe, and without it he begins to weaken and drain his reserves.
Hulk gets powered by an alt dimension and he grows stronger the more he fights so ... imo, Surfer was at the bigger disadvantage during their brief fight on Sakaar.
Originally posted by abhilegend
No. He still had PC albeit weakened than usual but he couldn't access it. Surfer was KTFO when he entered the portal, hulk wasn't.You know that with the destruction of the disc, surfer had access to his PC and then Hulk KTFO him, right?
Remember Sakaar is powered by the "Old Power" a synthetic PC, so it makes sense that they exist in an area of space totally devoid of PC.
Surfer had access to the residual PC within his own body, I said that already. It's just that he normally takes PC from the atmosphere around him and uses that to do his work.
Without an external powersource, he was owning the Warbound with internal reserves only.
Once the OB disc was broken, he went and freed everybody (which itself is a feat of major power), and was caught out by an enraged Hulk that didn't give a shit (very OOC).
Originally posted by janus77
No, it explicitly stated that the wormhole to Sakaar blocks off PC.Remember Sakaar is powered by the "Old Power" a synthetic PC, so it makes sense that they exist in an area of space totally devoid of PC.
Surfer had access to the residual PC within his own body, I said that already. It's just that he normally takes PC from the atmosphere around him and uses that to do his work.
Without an external powersource, he was owning the Warbound with internal reserves only.
Once the OB disc was broken, he went and freed everybody (which itself is a feat of major power), and was caught out by an enraged Hulk that didn't give a shit (very OOC).
Old power isn't synthesized PC. Who said such a thing?
No. He was already healing when he was awakened. He was more powerful than when he landed on sakaar, that's for sure. When he landed, he was so drained that he was KTFO.
If he was just as powerful as he was when he crossed the portal, he wouldn't even have been conscious in that fight.
Originally posted by carver9
If Bran doesn't have the scan, I will find it. It was during the time Hulk was trying to get to Skaar and Skaar was using a weapon to control Surfer. Surfer PC blast Hulk and Hulk powers through it like it was nothing.