Ghost Rider Vs Magneto

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Originally posted by janus77
I thought it required guilt to be affected by the penance stare?
they changed it a while back

Originally posted by janus77
Has GR been physically pummelled by anyone of late?

EDIT: I suspect guilt isn't something Magneto suffers much of. He sees his actions as entirely justified and righteous, in the face of a hostile, frightened and irredeemably malevolent species.

He's harbored a lot of regret over the years. And recently too. That much was clear when he was dealing with Wanda's breakdowns and submitting to Cyclops' leadership.

Originally posted by ODG
He's harbored a lot of regret over the years. And recently too. That much was clear when he was dealing with Wanda's breakdowns and submitting to Cyclops' leadership.

True enough, but he also has demonstrated that he is a "believer" in his rhetoric.

I thought the subordinate role he took with the X-Men was as a reaction to the M-Day fallout?

Originally posted by janus77
True enough, but he also has demonstrated that he is a "believer" in his rhetoric.

I thought the subordinate role he took with the X-Men was as a reaction to the M-Day fallout?

A lot of people believe in what they do and can still harbor guilt over it. They're not mutually exclusive notions.

Same thing. Cyclops was showing he could unite mutantkind on Utopia.

I don't know about that. You can definitely be righteous and still regret the pain you cause, but to feel guilt would necessitate some belief in the wrongness of your actions imo.

That's why I figured that his belief in his cause may mean that he feels little guilt.

Originally posted by janus77
I don't know about that. You can definitely be righteous and still regret the pain you cause, but to feel guilt would necessitate some belief in the wrongness of your actions imo.

That's why I figured that his belief in his cause may mean that he feels little guilt.

There's no righteousness to be found really in Magneto's neglect and victimization of his children. Something he's struggled with a long time.

Magneto doesn't kill anymore; heck he doesn't even doesn't attack humans anymore except in self-defense; and he doesn't believe himself to be a leader of mutants anymore. That's pretty much a complete 180 degree turnabout from his formerly held beliefs: killing in the name of mutant freedom is justifiable; especially if it's mutant-hating human scum; and he should be leading mutantkind into the next stage of humanity's evolution.

Even if you don't think this face-turn (not his first) is evidence of wracking guilt, he's acutely aware that what he used to do was wrong.

GR wins

Rider FTW

Ghost Rider is a master of promos. Much like Scott Steiner.

Magneto is an old, wrinkly ass hat. Just like Ric Flair.

GR cuts a promo that leaves Magneto's dirty, wrinkly mutant ass crying.

Nice ↑↑↑

Iv never heard Stiener and Flair used in the same sentince with GR and Magneto..

Its like using God and strippers in the same sentince without even taken breath

Originally posted by janus77
Has GR been physically pummelled by anyone of late?
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He hasn't been in a book for a while now.....far as i know.

He's probably been slapped up abit but nothing that would have affected him, instant reform, see jack o lantern blasting his skull to dust, then he reforms on the next panel

Zarathos would hellfire those purple panties into charcoal.