Martian Manhunter Vs Hyperion

Started by celeyhyga173 pages

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Most Avengers have tp shielding or shield scrubbers, but I will concede this point for now.

Wut do u mean? Like an Avengers issue equipment we're talking bout here?

Originally posted by carver9
Hyperion is too much.

MM has intangibility and TP
Both can prove incredible useful.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
Tbh imtangibility wont work to defend against heat vision, it may be a physical attack but its still heating up the air on the sub atomic level, so if it goes through MM its gonna burn him up big time

And why doesn't a knife or sharp weapon cut MM when he is intangible?
Or why can MM walk through walls and stuff?
That's because while intangible, nothing can causate with him.

Originally posted by h1a8
And why doesn't a knife or sharp weapon cut MM when he is intangible?
Or why can MM walk through walls and stuff?
That's because while intangible, nothing can causate with him.

Only have one question..

What is "causate"?
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Only have one question..

What is "causate"?
😮


Shame on you celey.

uhuh

Originally posted by h1a8
And why doesn't a knife or sharp weapon cut MM when he is intangible?
Or why can MM walk through walls and stuff?
That's because while intangible, nothing can causate with him.
try stabbing someone on a sub atomic level, because he can pass through the gaps between the walls molecular structure, he'll get burnt up big time, but he will still win

Originally posted by abhilegend
Shame on you celey.

uhuh


It was an honest question.

I'm too lazy to search it..
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wut do u mean? Like an Avengers issue equipment we're talking bout here?

Shield scrubbers are equipment

Tp shields are mental blocks put in by telepaths as part of Avengers training

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Only have one question..

What is "causate"?
😮


Don't feel bad its Latin, and he used it wrong

Casate refers to probability not the act of interaction.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Shield scrubbers are equipment

Tp shields are mental blocks put in by telepaths as part of Avengers training

similar to magneto's helmet

Kinda

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Shield scrubbers are equipment
TP shields are mental blocks put in by telepaths as part of Avengers training

Really? News to me. Pretty shoddy training seeing as Avengers members get tp'd just like anybody else who don't have the power set to defend from them.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Don't feel bad its Latin, and he used it wrong

Casate refers to probability not the act of interaction.


Thanks for the info.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Only have one question..

What is "causate"?
😮

It is italian. It is the verb tense of causation (a noun that means the act of causing as in 'cause and effect'😉.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
try stabbing someone on a sub atomic level, because he can pass through the gaps between the walls molecular structure, he'll get burnt up big time, but he will still win
His intangibility doesn't necessarily work that way. It's possible he can simply be phased out of the dimension or in a quantum state of flux. Nonetheless, we go by proof and evidence, not speculation.

HV was shown to not touch him in phased form before in comics.

Originally posted by h1a8
It is italian. It is the verb tense of causation (a noun that means the act of causing as in 'cause and effect'😉.

His intangibility doesn't necessarily work that way. It's possible he can simply be phased out of the dimension or in a quantum state of flux. Nonetheless, we go by proof and evidence, not speculation.

HV was shown to not touch him in phased form before in comics.

yes we go by proof and evidence, yet you say 'its possible' show me evidence of j'onn phasing to another dimension or quantum state of flux, and show me proof of it not affecting him while he is intangible

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
yes we go by proof and evidence, yet you say 'its possible' show me evidence of j'onn phasing to another dimension or quantum state of flux, and show me proof of it not affecting him while he is intangible

Im not claiming that is the way Jonn's ability works. I said it is a possible explanation. So what's to prove?

Ask Abhi, or Galan, or Philo. They should have scans showing HV going right through Jonn. The reason why I know this is because I was arguing against Jonn with your very same argument (lol) but I used the evidence of the Jonn Preus Fight. I was told and shown that MM has phased through HV. So I conceded the point..

Hm, tbh until i see scans i stand by what i say, and then ill believe it🙂

There's a reasonable amount of trust we need for some of these debates. Some feats are common knowledge. Some you know firsthand. Others have been posted on the forums.

It's rarely in a member's interest to lie about the existence of a feat. They might interpret it differently, sure, but something like "I've seen J'onn phase through HV" is pretty closed to debate. Either he did or didn't.

If you want a scan any time anyone says anything, you're going to have a hard time. Some things can be taken at a person's word.

We saw John phase through Superboy Prime's heat vision:

Originally posted by Digi
There's a reasonable amount of trust we need for some of these debates. Some feats are common knowledge. Some you know firsthand. Others have been posted on the forums.

It's rarely in a member's interest to lie about the existence of a feat. They might interpret it differently, sure, but something like "I've seen J'onn phase through HV" is pretty closed to debate. Either he did or didn't.

If you want a scan any time anyone says anything, you're going to have a hard time. Some things can be taken at a person's word.

no, i do believe you, i would just like to see the scans is all

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
no, i do believe you...

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
Hm, tbh until i see scans i stand by what i say, and then ill believe it🙂

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It kinds hurts your argument when I don't even have to scroll up to see you contradict yourself.