Badass Jedi team vs. TOR Dark Council

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Agreed. PT Era>All but maybe NJO no clue about NJO.

Yoda's Jedi would definitely have a considerable advantage over Luke's in terms of numbers, education, formal training and technique.

Luke's Jedi probably have an advantage of flexibility of mind and function, not to mention a more diverse worldview due to their interactions with other Force cults.

Also, no Sidious ****ing with their ability to use the Force and without the Force being tipped to the darkside.

That too.

lol coudn't Sid just use a wormhole while the dark council act as cannon fodder?

And the Jedi could just cut him off.

I'm not as well versed in the star wars lore as many, but how long would cutting him off take? because if they lose focus on the battle, some of the other sith may kill them

Originally posted by Master Han
We see how well Windu's posse does against Palpatine. Is it now that you're going to claim that TOR has retconned Lucas's whole "golden age of the Jedi" speech?

Agree there's nothing suggesting that Luke is going to struggle against random Sith Lords just because of numbers when someone in his tier casually murdered 3 Masters easily. And that's someone who's not in constant practice of his abilities unlike Luke.. If you outskill anyone in Star Wars but a good amount you get stomped in minutes.

Originally posted by Based
Luke, Yoda and Anakin could take out the Council in mere minutes. It depends on what the other Sith Lords do but they aren't the types to stick their necks out for weaker members.

Dark Council members are not fodder material.

Originally posted by Master Han
Would they? Some of the dark council members are legit; others are [relative] chumps. Do you imagine an "in teh zone" legacy era Luke struggling against four random council-level sith?

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Agreed. PT Era>All but maybe NJO no clue about NJO.

If we are to take GL's comments at face value then why pick and choose among them? GL have also stated that their is no story beyond Episode 6.

This is canonical ground reality now:-

One Sith Lord survived—Darth Bane—and his vision for the Sith differed from that of his predecessors. He instituted a new doctrine: No longer would the followers of the dark side build empires or amass great armies of Force-users. There would be only two Sith at a time: a Master and an apprentice. From that time on, the Sith remained in hiding, biding their time and plotting their revenge, while the rest of the galaxy enjoyed an unprecedented era of peace, so long and strong that the Republic eventually dismantled its standing armies.

But while the Republic seemed strong, its institutions had begun to rot. Greedy corporations sought profits above all else and a corrupt Senate did nothing to stop them, until the corporations reduced many planets to raw materials for factories and entire species became subjects for exploitation. Individual Jedi continued to defend the Republic’s citizens and obey the will of the Force, but the Jedi Order to which they answered grew increasingly out of touch. And a new Sith mastermind, Darth Sidious, at last saw a way to restore Sith domination over the galaxy and its inhabitants, and quietly worked to set in motion the revenge of the Sith …

The Jedi Order became complacent during the era of peace (Post Brotherhood of Sith).

I can argue that the Jedi Order was very impressive even in its very early stage (Force Wars era).

That also means all C-canon material doesn't exist at all.
So the remaining characters involved becomes a 3 vs 1.
RotJ Luke + RotS Anakin + RotS Yoda vs RotS Palpatine

Team 1 wins by sheer numbers.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Excuse me? 🙄

Dark Council members are not fodder material.

Against Palpatine, upper tier council-level Masters lasted a matter of mere seconds. Against an in-teh-zone Legacy era Luke, or Yoda, I don't imagine the dark council members doing very well either.

Your opinion that TOR duelists > RotS duelists is overriden not only by Lucas and Gillard, but also by a variety of statements throughout the RotS novelization that make it clear that there exists a ridiculously large concentration of prodigious Jedi, with Yoda explicitly being the most powerful light sider to ever live up to his time.

And canon debates aside, Lucas's personal view that the EU is a parallel universe is overridden by his official, company stance that the EU exists as a part of canon or "official" material. This is clarified by Leland Chee in one of his statements. In comparison, Lucas is referring specifically to lightsaber dueling when he refers to the Jedi being in their prime. Basically, unless if you can provide a massive quantity of evidence to override both various narrator statements and out of universe fiats, the PT era Jedi are in their combative prime.

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Hence why I gave the sith the advantage in numbers and tactical position. I put together some of the most powerful Jedi in the mythos, and an in-teh-zone Luke that has shit over Abeloth's face before.

if lord vitiate slew 9 dark council members with seeming ease, who isnt as strong as palpatine, who's half as strong as luke, who's to say that luke can't handle 3-4 dark council members in a minute or 2, arguably less?

A dark sider is draining Abeloth while Luke is keeping her from killing them both. Her other avatars are dying elsewhere in the galaxy. This also makes her powers go down a notch.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
[B]Excuse me? 🙄

Dark Council members are not fodder material.

What's you point? Neither is the Jedi Council yet Malgus killed Ven Zallow with ease. And guys like Luke, Yoda and Anakin are outclass Malgus too.

Originally posted by Based
What's you point? Neither is the Jedi Council yet Malgus killed Ven Zallow with ease.

To be fair, he hardly kills the Jedi Master with "ease".

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
if lord vitiate slew 9 dark council members with seeming ease,