LL, None of the characters follow you just because they're drawn to you. They all have actual reasons.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
None of the triumvirate have anything on G0-T0, who is far and away the best character to come out of the game perhaps barring Hanharr.What endeared me to G0-T0 was that he was a cynical, manipulative droid who was doing what he was doing to preserve the Republic. It was less a moral judgment than the solution of a mathematical equation wherein the Jedi and Sith were troublesome variables.
Loved it. And no one said he had to be out of the party. Kreia wasn't out of the party, and she was the Big Bad.
No, that would be Kreia. You might not like her, but she's still the most developed character with the most depth and complexity and the biggest place in the story.
Which is great no denying. I just don't think its satisfying to fight something like that.
That still doesn't explain you complaint of Traya being Obviously Evil. Isn't G0-T0 obviously evil as well?
Originally posted by The_Tempest
This is a very compelling reason for G0-T0 to not be the Big Bad, thanks for sharing it!
I'm being glib because my back still hurts.
The point is that Jedi are supposed to be above droids. I wouldn't be able to take a droid seriously as a final threat because droids can't feel the Force. One 'disable droid' and their dead. Now Nihilus Forcepwning me makes him seem like a threat. Traya shoving 3 lightsabers up my ass feels like a threat. You'd have to give him a really big gun to make him threatening. And even then....... a boss you can't lightsaber fight is just wrong. I'm sorry, but some things can't really be subverted.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
A final confrontation need not be a classic fist-fight and I do believe the heart of ME3's controversial ending was more along it's Fable-esque 3-way choice randomly presented to the hero, not the lack of a duel between Shepard and the Illusive Man or Harbinger.
There are many reasons it sucked. One of the complaints was that you get no personal resolution against the Reapers. Theres no Main Boss. This was an intentional act on Biowares part and it fell flat. Its part of why the ending is so unsatisfying, at no point is there a feeling of winning against anything.
Originally posted by Nephthys
No, that would be Kreia. You might not like her, but she's still the most developed character with the most depth and complexity and the biggest place in the story.
No, that would be you being a fanboy. G0-T0 and Hanharr are far more awesome than Obviously Evil Kreia whose sole development is going from Obviously Evil in brown hooded robes to Obviously Evil in brown hooded robes with 3 lightsabers whizzing at your face.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Which is great no denying. I just don't think its satisfying to fight something like that.That still doesn't explain you complaint of Traya being Obviously Evil. Isn't G0-T0 obviously evil as well?
Not really, no. Maybe if he were attempting to ingratiate himself as friend and mentor?
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm being glib because my back still hurts.The point is that Jedi are supposed to be above droids. I wouldn't be able to take a droid seriously as a final threat because droids can't feel the Force. One 'disable droid' and their dead. Now Nihilus Forcepwning me makes him seem like a threat. Traya shoving 3 lightsabers up my ass feels like a threat. You'd have to give him a really big gun to make him threatening.
I seem to recall you suggesting that T3 isn't necessarily below the likes of Dooku. 😐
Originally posted by Nephthys
There are many reasons it sucked. One of the complaints was that you get no personal resolution against the Reapers. Theres no Main Boss. This was an intentional act on Biowares part and it fell flat. Its part of why the ending is so unsatisfying, at no point is there a feeling of winning against anything.
I refer you to the Canadian's elucidation of my initial proposal. You can fight G0-T0 via proxy or combat him with words or kill him in a cutscene. We don't have to fist fight him.
Or hell, we could have Nihilus strip you of the Force, forcing you to combat G0-T0's droid avatar on one-to-one terms. I dunno. But it's doable, no doubt.
I;m too hurty for this. My basic point is that your changes seem to be changing the fundamental aspects of the game to the extent that it wouldn't even be the same game. You might as well re-write the whole plot since your replacing the characters, the main conflict and the villain. Basically the entire point of the game.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I;m too hurty for this. My basic point is that your changes seem to be changing the fundamental aspects of the game to the extent that it wouldn't even be the same game. You might as well re-write the whole plot since your replacing the characters, the main conflict and the villain. Basically the entire point of the game.
And it would undoubtedly be a better game for it. Most of the characters can stay. Nihilus and Sion are uninteresting anyways and as has been discussed, the notion of Force bonds and wounds is hopelessly retarded.
Originally posted by Nephthys👆 x10. We clearly want this.
I;m too hurty for this. My basic point is that your changes seem to be changing the fundamental aspects of the game to the extent that it wouldn't even be the same game. You might as well re-write the whole plot since your replacing the characters, the main conflict and the villain. Basically the entire point of the game.
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It's decent and had extraordinary promise. In execution, it's too dark, unbearably pretentious, and has too much flash and pazazz for a story all about teh depth and subtlety. LOL HE NOM NOMS PLANETS AND LOL FORCE BONDZZZZ SO DEEP
No.
As for the best thing in the EU, that would be Yoda: Dark Rendezvous.
