Vampires vs. Witches vs. Fae (True Blood]

On the vampires side Russell Edgington leads the vampires. No Lilith of Bilith. All other vampires are fair game such as Godric, Eric Northman, etc.

Marnie Stonebrook as Antonia's medium is leading the witches. We have Lafayette, his boyfriend with the aid of the brujo, etc. along with all other witches of the show save Tara as she is a vampire now.

Warlow is leading the Fae. Even though he is a hybrid he still relates to the Faeries and favors their people above all else. Battle takes place at night.

Each side is thirty miles out at their own home base so to speak but no entry point as in a home more or less a campsite.

"his boyfriend" has a name :l

The vampires win. The fae may have anti vamp light, but all but two have been shown able to stand up to them, the rest will be overwhelmed. They still have human reaction, so the odds aren't in their small groups favour. Secondly is that with Warlow their, the Fae lose their biggest advantage. Niall can't support the whole side.

Same goes for the witches. If Marnie gets lucky and captures some vamps, yay. If not her group are going to be quickly dispatched, again making it her holding the team up.

Too many advantages and numbers for the vampires to lose.

Originally posted by BloodRain
"his boyfriend" has a name :l

The vampires win. The fae may have anti vamp light, but all but two have been shown able to stand up to them, the rest will be overwhelmed. They still have human reaction, so the odds aren't in their small groups favour. Secondly is that with Warlow their, the Fae lose their biggest advantage. Niall can't support the whole side.

Same goes for the witches. If Marnie gets lucky and captures some vamps, yay. If not her group are going to be quickly dispatched, again making it her holding the team up.

Too many advantages and numbers for the vampires to lose.

The Fae can bfr and have shown the ability to tag vampire speed. How do the Fae lose their advantage with Warlow there ?

Well, the witches do have the distance and can stack some vampires to their side making this interesting.

If Marnie erects a barrier and gets some vampires on her side this could get very interesting.

The Fae also have energy bombs under the Queen which destroy bodies entirely.

The argument can be made for only the two strongest Fae, and against 350 and less vamps. Faster vamps would have the advantage, as would any vamp to a non elder Fae. Advantage lost as he'd be resisting the light blasts.

'Could' get a vamp. Remember that their whole hope rests on whether Marnie gets the chance to as isn't overwhelmed or flanked. That's the problem when one member is the teams pillar.

Originally posted by BloodRain
The argument can be made for only the two strongest Fae, and against 350 and less vamps. Faster vamps would have the advantage, as would any vamp to a non elder Fae. Advantage lost as he'd be resisting the light blasts.

'Could' get a vamp. Remember that their whole hope rests on whether Marnie gets the chance to as isn't overwhelmed or flanked. That's the problem when one member is the teams pillar.

Marnie has showed reflexes to stop vampires such as Eric Northman. That's very impressive. Marnie is dangerous through prep and could erect barriers.

Hitting a standing Warlow with a blast doesn't constitute as her having super reactions. So 2 for the vamps. And did Niall demonstrate his speed over Warlow? And anyhow this is at best 4 vs all the vamps, or at worst 2 vs all the vamps up to Nora. The rest of the Fae are practically humans with silver bullets.

She didn't stop his speed as I recall. And yes, with prep she csn do something but again, its her against all the vamps and even the Fae. She won't last. And what would she do in the bubble? Because she can't use her control spells unless close. Don't even need to bring up how the Fae would beat her. She's doesn't have much to deal with them, their light has been shown to mess with the magic and she couldn't hide from them. Only with the best situation would the witches not be the first to go.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Hitting a standing Warlow with a blast doesn't constitute as her having super reactions. So 2 for the vamps. And did Niall demonstrate his speed over Warlow? And anyhow this is at best 4 vs all the vamps, or at worst 2 vs all the vamps up to Nora. The rest of the Fae are practically humans with silver bullets.

She didn't stop his speed as I recall. And yes, with prep she csn do something but again, its her against all the vamps and even the Fae. She won't last. And what would she do in the bubble? Because she can't use her control spells unless close. Don't even need to bring up how the Fae would beat her. She's doesn't have much to deal with them, their light has been shown to mess with the magic and she couldn't hide from them. Only with the best situation would the witches not be the first to go.

The rest of the Fae will have powers. Must because Russell tanked them doesn't mean everyone can. Other Fae blew bodies up completely with Fae bombs. That's most powerful Fae magic we have seen yet and you are ignoring it.

Marnie can use vamps against Fae. It depends on what happens on this battlefield. She can teleport. She uses her fingers and chants to control them. She can alter the weather and environment to make things difficult.

You also remember the Brujo who is powerful as well.

Yes they have powers. They have also been constantly shown to be terrified of vampires, even with their powers. Didn't ignore it, that was part of my 'same as humans with silver bullets' line. And they are. Fae blasts are to silver in the arm, as Fae bombs are to silver on the head or heart.
The only real threats are those who can react, and those very few can't keep it up forever before numbers and speed play its part.

I admit her role here depends on if she gets vamps or not, which on itself is an issue. And at the end of the day she has the most struggles and needs the most plans in order to be even on level footings here.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Yes they have powers. They have also been constantly shown to be terrified of vampires, even with their powers. Didn't ignore it, that was part of my 'same as humans with silver bullets' line. And they are. Fae blasts are to silver in the arm, as Fae bombs are to silver on the head or heart.
The only real threats are those who can react, and those very few can't keep it up forever before numbers and speed play its part.

I admit her role here depends on if she gets vamps or not, which on itself is an issue. And at the end of the day she has the most struggles and needs the most plans in order to be even on level footings here.

But she has the powers to make this possible. Marnie and her circle can do some real damage especially with some vampires under her control.

As in all of them carry tasers/bullets, yes. Like humans with guns.

She's does, and has to do a lot to be break even. She's have to figure out how to safety get vampires, as in go get within range of some without more attacking her when vulnerable. Then make a plan to use them to get more, repeat the process until she has enough to compete with the rest. All the while watching her back from being flanked by a vamp or Fae. That's a lot to consider

Originally posted by BloodRain
As in all of them carry tasers/bullets, yes. Like humans with guns.

She's does, and has to do a lot to be break even. She's have to figure out how to safety get vampires, as in go get within range of some without more attacking her when vulnerable. Then make a plan to use them to get more, repeat the process until she has enough to compete with the rest. All the while watching her back from being flanked by a vamp or Fae. That's a lot to consider

Marnie did so by herself against another vampire and successfully did so against Eric, Bill, and his own assault team.

She will have those same people at her side as well as the Brujo along with the earlier witches who died with Antonia.

And besides a surprise attack, she's shown little else to compare to the elder and you're right, we've see the scrubs against vamps as that what the majority sans 2/3 Fae are to vamps. There's a reason they're terrified, and a reason only the strongest show confidence in facing one.

Note the 'by herself' part. As in, without other vampires around her. If she's casting a spell on one vamp, she's open to be flanked. And the rest can hardly do much because besides very minor or personally defensive spells from 3, all they are are backup vocals. Maybe not the Brujo, can't recall what it can do though.

Originally posted by BloodRain
And besides a surprise attack, she's shown little else to compare to the elder and you're right, we've see the scrubs against vamps as that what the majority sans 2/3 Fae are to vamps. There's a reason they're terrified, and a reason only the strongest show confidence in facing one.

Note the 'by herself' part. As in, without other vampires around her. If she's casting a spell on one vamp, she's open to be flanked. And the rest can hardly do much because besides very minor or personally defensive spells from 3, all they are are backup vocals. Maybe not the Brujo, can't recall what it can do though.

She can teleport and have her crew around her. Fire is also a weakness she can use against the vampires. We see her stop vamps as they use their speed.

Her owning Eric twice speaks volumes about her formidability.

Witches stomp

Originally posted by juggerman
Witches stomp

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree the vampires are the strongest species on the show. But we have never seen the Faeries all out attack them. The stronger ones definitely beat on a majority of the vampires such as Niall and the Faerie Elder.

She can teleport and have her crew around her. Fire is also a weakness she can use against the vampires. We see her stop vamps as they use their speed.

Her owning Eric twice speaks volumes about her formidability.

And whats to stop a group of vamps tearing her apart when she tries to throw a spell over one? Her coven? Yeah fire is, doesnt help that shes only been shown to 'summon' fire, not manipulate it to any decent degree.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh really ? What makes you say so.

They take control of all the vampires and have them attack and kill the Fae then kill themselves. With so much space between the groups the witches can pull strings without ever being in harm's way. They also have that shield.

^10ft range for mind controlling vampires.

Originally posted by BloodRain
^10ft range for mind controlling vampires.

Since when? They sure didn't have an issue making all the vampires want to walk out into the sun from several miles away

Because thats for that specific spell; all in range do whatever to stand in the sun.

The mind control specific spell is only something shes done within range. Like when she needed Eric to lure some vamps right up to her in order for her to control them.