..... Team Superman Vs Team Silver Surfer .....

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Originally posted by Nibedicus
Other than GL Hal, what "feats" does the DCnU team have that gives them the win vs team 2? Especially DCnU WW.

The two years to Uranus was before his upgrade from Eon, btw. 😛


The only thing he got that from that upgrade was that he could now Quantum jump. He took days to get to the moon once when he forgot how to quantum jump after that.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
So you agree that Quasar wins?

Cool


😂

You're the real "prep-man of marvel".

Originally posted by carver9
Is that all you do is lowball? Lets not pretend like Superman hasn't had any low showings when it comes to speed.

Point out the times where Superman took YEARS to go on Uranus.

You all stop acting like WW isn't the weak link. Team 2 with some separation. And Quantum Bands >>> GL ring.

Maybe in energy absorption.

I'd put Hal above Q in a fight though.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The only thing he got that from that upgrade was that he could now Quantum jump. He took days to get to the moon once when he forgot how to quantum jump after that.

So what's your point? You pointed out the time it took him to travel to Uranus as a way to put down his abilities and I simply pointed out that in the same issue (IIRC), he gained the ability to instantly cross the distance easily meaning that your comment is no longer relevant.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
So what's your point? You pointed out the time it took him to travel to Uranus as a way to put down his abilities and I simply pointed out that in the same issue (IIRC), he gained the ability to instantly cross the distance easily meaning that your comment is no longer relevant.

Quantum jump=/=speed. I wasn't talking about his teleportation abilities which he can't do in atmosphere of the planet or devastate the planet, I was talking about his speed which sucks donkey balls.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Quantum jump=/=speed. I wasn't talking about his teleportation abilities, I was talking about his speed which sucks donkey balls.

Again, how does him having (relatively) slow travel speed at the start of his career relevant here?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Again, how does him having (relatively) slow travel speed at the start of his career relevant here?

It isn't just his travel speed which sucks and where did his speed got upgraded? His combat speed sucks too. Can you cite any reflex feat for him? Quasar was blitzed by Makkari at escape velocity level speed.

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/MakkariBlitzesQuasar.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/QuasarSlow1.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/QuasarSlow2.jpg

Then Makkari dragged him around the world which was a blur to him

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/QuasarPerceptionBlur.jpg

****ing whizzer was so fast to him that Quasar couldn't even see him

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/QuasarWhizzer1.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/QuasarWhizzer2.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
It isn't just his travel speed which sucks and where did his speed got upgraded? His combat speed sucks too. Can you cite any reflex feat for him? Quasar was blitzed by Makkari at escape velocity level speed.

You're not getting what I'm saying.

What relevance is Quasar's travel speed have to do with anything?

It's kinda like me saying that Superman has crappy energy construct powers.

Why insert his reflex speed when no one was arguing it in the first place? Yes, he has human-level reflexes, super reflex speed was never part of his powerset. His powers are about energy attacks/constructs and energy absorption.

And while I would agree that he is on the lower end of the totem pole within the Surfer group, I'd like to see what "feats" DCnU WW has that would make this team battle lopsided.

Team 1.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
You're not getting what I'm saying.

What relevance is Quasar's travel speed have to do with anything?

It's kinda like me saying that Superman has crappy energy construct powers.

Why insert his reflex speed when no one was arguing it in the first place? Yes, he has human-level reflexes, super reflex speed was never part of his powerset. His powers are about energy attacks/constructs and energy absorption.

And while I would agree that he is on the lower end of the totem pole within the Surfer group, I'd like to see what "feats" DCnU WW has that would make this team battle lopsided.


I was talking about superman's powerset which includes superspeed being too dangerous for quasar.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I was talking about superman's powerset which includes superspeed being too dangerous for quasar.

Well, I can certainly agree with that. I seem to remember Gladiator giving him fits, too. Tho I wouldn't say "stomp".

Just don't understand the line of reasoning wherein you correlate his relatively low-end travel movement speed (w/c is compensated by his Quantum Jump) as some form of major disadvantage when opposed to Superman's speed. Would have been better if you used his human-level reaction time (as that would be more relevant in a combat situation). /shrug

Guess it's just how you put things. 😛

Edit. I do remember him being able to Quantum Jump from within the atmosphere, will have to dig up some old Quasar comics...

The quantum bands have enough energy to sustain galactus for a millenia, as seen when surfer had them, not sure if its canon but i dont see why they would make them more, or less powerful because its not apart of marvel's main continuity.

Quasar has a nanosecond reaction feed on the Thanos Imperative if I recall correctly.

Originally posted by Bentley
Quasar has a nanosecond reaction feed on the Thanos Imperative if I recall correctly.

By that remark, Desaad has nanosecond reflexes too.

I don't mind that 😖hifty:

Originally posted by abhilegend
Quantum jump=/=speed. I wasn't talking about his teleportation abilities which he can't do in atmosphere of the planet or devastate the planet, I was talking about his speed which sucks donkey balls.

This is a battle, not a galactic race.

Originally posted by abhilegend
By that remark, Desaad has nanosecond reflexes too.

You either accept is or you dn

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Well, I can certainly agree with that. I seem to remember Gladiator giving him fits, too. Tho I wouldn't say "stomp".

Just don't understand the line of reasoning wherein you correlate his relatively low-end travel movement speed (w/c is compensated by his Quantum Jump) as some form of major disadvantage when opposed to Superman's speed. Would have been better if you used his human-level reaction time (as that would be more relevant in a combat situation). /shrug

Guess it's just how you put things. 😛

Edit. I do remember him being able to Quantum Jump from within the atmosphere, will have to dig up some old Quasar comics...

Quasar could potential absorb Superman's power, his lifeforce or Superman himself. He absorbed Ego and Ego > Superman. And there is little question in my mind that he could absorb Hal's energies.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
This is a battle, not a galactic race.

Its a fight and superman would blitz him.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
You either accept is or you dn

Quasar could potential absorb Superman's power, his lifeforce or Superman himself. He absorbed Ego and Ego > Superman. And there is little question in my mind that he could absorb Hal's energies.


What is that supposed to mean? Captain America has said that too, daredevil as well. Doesn't mean much.

I don't think you know the full detail about how Quasar absorbed Ego's energies through Reed's device. He isn't going to absorb Hal's energy since its outside EM spectrum and Quasar is useless against those kind of energies. I know you have looked through marvel respect threads a lot here, but this isn't your wet dreams where Marvel>DC in everything.

Team Surfer wins. He owns Superman.