Syria Chemical Attack

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Syria Chemical Attack

The Syrian government launched chemical weapons on its citizens.

I'm waiting to see what the President decides to do.

I would love to see how Dubya or Romney would handle this.

It's sounding pretty serious. You know shit hits the fan when the German foreign ministry (yeah, historical jokes aside--they're pretty dovish) starts talking about "consequences" and "punishment" in response to something.

Turkey, France, and the UK have more or less already signed on to join the US in a possible intervention. Turkey would be most important, they have the ability to invade and completely overwhelm Syria by land if provided with air support from NATO allies. Given how weak Syria's military has become and how it's been deployed to fight insurgents rather than defend borders, and given the size of the Turkish military, they could probably defeat the Syrian Army in a matter of weeks. The ensuing occupation and reconstruction would be less easy to say the least.

I don't really understand the argument that intervention at this point will make things worse. The hornet's nest has already been kicked over, now Russia and China are saying "don't use the wasp killer--that will make things worse!"

Russia and China are really dicking over the lives of many people just to spite the US. It's times like these that a one-world government doesn't sound bad at all.

It's not just about spiting the US. For Russia, Syria represents an opportunity to show that Russia still has a superpower's reach. For China it's an opportunity to show that China can't be bullied into acceding to the USA's foreign policy vision.

Russia is also terrified of a post-Assad Syria as a breeding ground for terrorists that might go on to attack Russia, but ironically Russia's hardline stance in support of Assad has prompted Islamists in Syria to vow that Russia is "next." In a sense, they now have their very own "Israel" that makes them a target.

It may not be just spiting the US, but they are still dicking over lives for their own selfish reasons.

You're talking about dictatorships. It's what they do.

I think the big question on everybody's mind is: What will Canada do about it?

Everyone knows maple syrup is the best cure for nerve gas exposure.

I accidentally used maple flavored bacon in my soup today. 🙁

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I accidentally used maple flavored bacon in my soup today. 🙁
Our national dish. Very good, very good.

Maple bacon isn't bad, although I could imagine that it wouldn't taste good in a soup.

Back on topic, what if Syria does turn into another chaotic mess like Libya or Iraq? Is it worth the risk in your opinion?

I don't often agree with Peter Hitchens but I did with this article.
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2013/08/before-we-bomb-syria-shouldnt-we-seek-proof-of-guilt-.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

I thought the US had undeniable proof. Am I mistaken about this? I would think after something like Iraq, we wouldn't attack a country regarding WMDs unless indisputably sure.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Maple bacon isn't bad, although I could imagine that it wouldn't taste good in a soup.

Back on topic, what if Syria does turn into another chaotic mess like Libya or Iraq? Is it worth the risk in your opinion?

Not that I know specifics, but I'd say Syria's a more chaotic mess than Libya ever was.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I thought the US had undeniable proof. Am I mistaken about this? I would think after something like Iraq, we wouldn't attack a country regarding WMDs unless indisputably sure.
lawl?

Originally posted by Lestov16
I thought the US had undeniable proof. Am I mistaken about this? I would think after something like Iraq, we wouldn't attack a country regarding WMDs unless indisputably sure.

Do get undeniable proof they'd have to have collected samples from the site of the attack and done autopsies on the victims. So far as I know they've been unable to do that.

Then there's this from earlier this year.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/uns-carla-del-ponte-says-there-is-evidence-rebels-may-have-used-sarin-in-syria-8604920.html

Originally posted by Lord Lucien

lawl?

lawl. 🙁

The US is acting like they have information that we don't but I agree with Hitchens and Moscow, I don't support retaliatory action until we have a clear picture of what happened.

I don't support retaliatory action at all. Until they actually attack us first.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I don't support retaliatory action at all. Until they actually attack us first.

The idea is to discourage future use of chemical weapons against civilians. Retaliatory is probably not the right word--"punitive" would be more apposite.