Superman from Man of Steel Vs. the Twiverse

Started by Lord Lucien3 pages

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm neither gay or a 12yr girl, so I haven't seen the movies.
I am both gay and a 12 year old girl, so I've seen all five of these movies.

That said, Superman's not been shown to be as fast as the Glitter Club, but they've shown nothing that can actually hurt him, whereas he has for them. The most they could do to him is have Jane incapacitate him with pain. If he can fight through that and kill her with heat vision, say, it'll only be a matter of time before he tears apart the rest. It would take forever once they scatter, and the psychic ones that can see the future and read his mind will have an advantage at running, but running is all they'll be able to do. They just can't damage him.

They cannot run faster than Superman can fly.

I dunno, they crossed a rather large swath of land pretty friggin fast.

Superman broke the sound barrier multiple times and achieved atmospheric heights unaided. They can't run as fast as he can fly.

Not only that Superman and Zod flew from Metropolis to orbit in seconds.

Well, if pushing over a tree is proof that their strength in the range of 50-400 tons, then wouldn't moving across a large patch of land rather quickly be proof that their speed is around 50-400 mach?

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Lol. Flawless math my friend.

twilight-verse and man of steel all die of aids because they suck.

battle never concluded.

Supes also swam from the crab boat to the oil platform in seconds. Bu this could also be movie editing.

Originally posted by FrothByte
And you're basing this on what?

Superman isn't imprevious to pain. Just so happens that human weapons don't hurt him. But he can still feel pain. Jane can cause him pain. He has no defense against that. Jane can attack him at the speed of thought.

Jane's brother also has psychic attacks. And there was another one who could make illusions. Superman has no defenses against this.

When did I say he was impervious to pain?

He can feel pain and still fight through it, which was shown in the movie.

Her brothers attack will never touch him.

I can't remember, do she need to touch people to cast illusions?

Originally posted by Mindset
When did I say he was impervious to pain?

He can feel pain and still fight through it, which was shown in the movie.

Her brothers attack will never touch him.

I can't remember, do she need to touch people to cast illusions?

Their psychic attacks don't need physical contact to take effect. As for pain, well every human can fight through pain, depends on how high their pain threshold is and how high the pain is.

Superman fought through pain, but nothing extremely painful that I know of. Jane's pain isn't physical though, so it's not something that you can just grit your teeth against. It's supposed to be painful enough to cripple anyone, so we can't automatically assume that Clark can fight through it because he didn't exactly show super pain tolerance.

You're right about her brother's attack though. Jane's attacks are instantaneous but her brother's were described (I believe) like a crawling mist. So forget that.

Clark was fighting against the pain that the world engine inflicted.

All pain is physical, I'm not sure what you mean. Unless she's going to make him depressed.

Also considering how Zod and Faora were only momentarily inconvenienced by massive sensory overload, I'd say Clark can take anything they can dish out.

Originally posted by KingD19
Also considering how Zod and Faora were only momentarily inconvenienced by massive sensory overload, I'd say Clark can take anything they can dish out.

Momentarily inconvenienced? Faora was knocked out.

Originally posted by Mindset
Clark was fighting against the pain that the world engine inflicted.

All pain is physical, I'm not sure what you mean. Unless she's going to make him depressed.


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Pain is actually more mental (or neural) than physical. It is our brain that interprets something as painful. If you can make someone "think" they are in pain, then that pain is just as real.

We're not quite sure how much pain the world engine was inflicting on Clark. To simply assume that he can withstand any amount of pain is a no limits fallacy.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Momentarily inconvenienced? Faora was knocked out.

It was the sensory overload mixed with the sidewinder missile exploding in her face that did that.

And Zod tanked it. Superman is more of a peer for Zod than Faora is for Kal.

Originally posted by FrothByte
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Pain is actually more mental (or neural) than physical. It is our brain that interprets something as painful. If you can make someone "think" they are in pain, then that pain is just as real.

We're not quite sure how much pain the world engine was inflicting on Clark. To simply assume that he can withstand any amount of pain is a no limits fallacy.

Ok, you realize that it being neural means it's physical, right? Neurons are not magical imaginary things that interact with us. Pain is physical; our physical neurons send physical signals to our physical brain. How neurons are stimulated into sending signals to the brain to interpret as pain is irrelevant, it still manifests physically.

You'd have a point if I said he could withstand any amount of pain. Clark has shown the ability to withstand more damage than anyone in Twilight-verse can handle, and one of the wolves was able to get up and try to get away while he was being attacked by her, Clark would, at the very least, be able to hit her with hv.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
twilight-verse and man of steel all die of aids because they suck.

battle never concluded.

I'm good with this.

Mindset is arguing in favor of superman? Armageddon is nigh.

fear

Superman dominates this fight.

His speed should be massively faster than the whole Twiverse (combined). Before there thoughts process registers he could kill them.

He'd constantly get powered by the sun and proceed to beat all the enemies.