Top 10 sith lords

what have they done that puts them ahead of sidious? sidious has:

Clouded the vision of 1000's of jedi

Aided plagueis in knocking THE FORCE ITSELF off balance

Has been stated in NUMEROUS SOURCES as the most powerful sith ever

Is canonically one of the greatest duelists in the mythos

Is canonically one of the greatest force wielders in the mythos

was the ONLY SITH to bring down the jedi order

Slowly drained a planet of 20,000,000,000 people

Turned a "lush, fertile planet," into "One of the most potent dark side nexuses in the galaxy."

Has moved at near-relativistic speeds

Has created force storms that can consume fleets and planets

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
what have they done that puts them ahead of sidious? sidious has:

Clouded the vision of 1000's of jedi

Aided plagueis in knocking THE FORCE ITSELF off balance

Has been stated in NUMEROUS SOURCES as the most powerful sith ever

Is canonically one of the greatest duelists in the mythos

Is canonically one of the greatest force wielders in the mythos

was the ONLY SITH to bring down the jedi order

Slowly drained a planet of 20,000,000,000 people

Turned a "lush, fertile planet," into "One of the most potent dark side nexuses in the galaxy."

Has moved at near-relativistic speeds

Has created force storms that can consume fleets and planets

1.FALSE
2.FALSE
3.SIDIOUS IS FAR FAR FAR INFERIOR TO THE SITH OF OLD.
4.No he's not.
5.NOPE
6.Ragnos was planning to--however he died of old age. Kun could have so could Revan so could Hord. They just had bIGGER PLANS. AND SIDIOUSES PLANS FAILED BADLY DIDINT THEY WHEN HE GOT HIS ***** ASS THROWN DOWN A SHAFT BY A WEAKASS CYBORG WHO CAN BARLEY MOVE.
7.Not in the movies he didint do that shit. Don't even bring up DE Sidious because thats some fake shit made by EU writers to redeem Sidiouses PATHETIC DEATH HE DIED LIKE WHAT HE WAS A SHIT STAIN AND A WEAKLING!.
8.Not in the movies. He moved slower then Windu. Naga Sadow and Ludo Kressh moved 10X faster then him in their fight.
9.FAKEEEEE

Ancient Sith/KOTOR Sith>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sidious PERIOD ACCEPT IT.

I think your trolling me.

I have a question, and I want you to answer honestly: how much canon knowledge do you have of the PT EU and onward? The Sidious of DE is canonical, your opinion cannot change that. He did all of those things, read the novelizations/Plagueis

1.Tulak Hord pulled down a GIANT ASS SHIP 100X THE SIZE OF THE ONE MAUL PULLED WITH EASE!. Tulak slaughtered MILLIONS of Jedi at once and defeated ARMIES OF JEDI. Sidious is NOWERE NEAR THAT HE GOT A BEATDOWN FROM MACE WINDU AND VADER LIKE THE PUNK HE IS!. TULAK HORD WOULD KILL SIDIOUS IN 1SWING OF HIS LIGHTSABER!.

2.Marka Ragnos had a scepter capable of absorbing the energy out of his opponent and using it for himself (like vaapad but 500X better). He could drain planets and make NON force sensitive users INTO force sensitives. He defeated 126Jedi with ease and only lost because the Jedi Women collapsed the cave. He ruled over the Sith Empire(the 2nd most powerful dark side orginiazation) for generations UNAPOSSED.

3.Freedon Nadd KILLED MORE JEDI WITH HIS BLASTER THEN ANYJEDI DID WITH A LIGHTSABER! MEANING HIS JEDI KILL COUNT IS IN THE MILLIONS!. HE WOULD KILL SIDIOUS BEFORE HE COULD REACT.

4.Darth Nihilus DRAINED PLANETS OF THEIR ENTIRE LIFE JUST BY SPEAKING.

All of the ABOVE would KILL SIDIOUS, YODA, WINDU, AND DOOKU COMBINED IN 1SECOND. Sidious sucks ALL HE DID WAS GET HIS ASS RIPPED APART BY MACE WINDU AND VADER BOTH OF WHOM ARE CHILDREN PLAYING WITH TOYS COMPARED TO THE ANCIENT SITH AND ARE NOTHING!.

Everything I have stated is a FACT. Sidious could barley lift SENATE PODS, Ludo Kressh SMASHED A GIANT STATUE JUST BY GETTING ANGRY A STATUE 5X THE SIZE OF THOSE PODS!.

Face it, even Sithlords like Darth Bane and Ludo Kressh would solo Sidious. He is the shitstain of the darkside.

This is funny.

Originally posted by Ragnosfan1998
1.Tulak Hord pulled down a GIANT ASS SHIP 100X THE SIZE OF THE ONE MAUL PULLED WITH EASE!.

Stop embellishing facts. Nowhere is it stated that he did it "with ease". You just tacked that onto your recounting. And, as I've pointed out to Neph, this feat is vague and difficult to quantify. How do you determine how difficult it is to pull a ship "down"? Why wasn't it already falling? Was it using repulsorlifts, engines or was it in orbit?

And BTW, Palpatine's Force storms have ravaged planets and destroyed entire starfleets.

Tulak slaughtered MILLIONS of Jedi at once and defeated ARMIES OF JEDI.

Show me the quote where it states he slaughtered "millions" of Jedi.

Sidious is NOWERE NEAR THAT HE GOT A BEATDOWN FROM MACE WINDU AND VADER LIKE THE PUNK HE IS!. TULAK HORD WOULD KILL SIDIOUS IN 1SWING OF HIS LIGHTSABER!.

Circular logic, since Windu is no weakling, and IDK why you think Vader's surprise attack matters.

2.Marka Ragnos had a scepter capable of absorbing the energy out of his opponent and using it for himself (like vaapad but 500X better). He could drain planets and make NON force sensitive users INTO force sensitives. He defeated 126Jedi with ease and only lost because the Jedi Women collapsed the cave. He ruled over the Sith Empire(the 2nd most powerful dark side orginiazation) for generations UNAPOSSED.

So what? He has a scepter - that's not indicative of his own power. I could just as validly point towards Sidious's Death Star.

BTW, Sidious has destroyed entire star fleets with Force storms. Just so you know.

3.Freedon Nadd KILLED MORE JEDI WITH HIS BLASTER THEN ANYJEDI DID WITH A LIGHTSABER! MEANING HIS JEDI KILL COUNT IS IN THE MILLIONS!. HE WOULD KILL SIDIOUS BEFORE HE COULD REACT.

Source.

4.Darth Nihilus DRAINED PLANETS OF THEIR ENTIRE LIFE JUST BY SPEAKING.

Sidious did this without needing to be a wound in the Force, or whatever.

BTW, Sidious is stated by canon to be the most powerful sith lord of all time.

Originally posted by Master Han
This is funny.

Stop embellishing facts. Nowhere is it stated that he did it "with ease". You just tacked that onto your recounting. And, as I've pointed out to Neph, this feat is vague and difficult to quantify. How do you determine how difficult it is to pull a ship "down"? Why wasn't it already falling? Was it using repulsorlifts, engines or was it in orbit?

And BTW, Palpatine's Force storms have ravaged planets and destroyed [b]entire starfleets.

Show me the quote where it states he slaughtered "millions" of Jedi.

Circular logic, since Windu is no weakling, and IDK why you think Vader's surprise attack matters.

So what? He has a scepter - that's not indicative of his own power. I could just as validly point towards Sidious's Death Star.

BTW, Sidious has destroyed entire star fleets with Force storms. Just so you know.

Source.

Sidious did this without needing to be a wound in the Force, or whatever.

BTW, Sidious is stated by canon to be the most powerful sith lord of all time. [/B]

Tulak Hord pulled down a GIANT SHIP WITH TOTAL EASE. That feat is FAR GREATER THEN ANYTHING SIDIOUS HAS EVER DONE. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD, BOY!.

Everything Sidious did in the EU is fake, in the movies he was UNABLE to destroy planets, unable to do force storms. Could do NONE OF THAT.

The Real Sidious is a peace of shit that lost to a funny black guy and a old ass cryborg.

Compared to the REAL SITH

MARKA RAGNOS, FREEDON NADD, AND TULAK HORD, Sidious is a SHIT STAIN IN THE BACK OF A CAR.

Tulak hord SLAUGHTERED over MILLIONS OF JEDI AND ARMIES OF JEDI.

SIDIOUS WAS TO PUSSY TO KILL 300JEDI AT THE JEDI TEMPLE BECAUSE HE WAS A ****ING PUNK AND WEAKLING!.

RAGNOS COULD DRAIN WORLDS SO COULD NIHILUS.

FACE THE FACTS, SIDIOUS IS FAR WEAKER THEN THE ANCIENT SITH. THAT IS A FACT, GET OVER YOURSELF. DARTH SHITIOUS IS THE DARK SHIT OF THE FORCE!.

If Shitious was even half as powerful as Marka Ragnos he would have killed all 4 of the Jedi that attacked him 1second then killed Yoda with his lightning.

BUT HE DIDINT, DID HE!?. BECAUSE HE WAS A WIMP!.

NADD KILLED MORE JEDI WITH A BLASTER THEN ANYONE DID WITH A LIGHTSABER! HE WOULD SQAUSH DARTH SHITIOUS LIKE A BUG!.

Everything I have said is a fact: arguing against it is pointless.

I have said this again, and I will SAY IT AGAIN THOSE WHO HAVE GREATER FEATS AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS WILL ALWAYS BE CONSIDERED GREATER!.

My list would be.

1.marka ragnos
2.naga sadow
3.freedon nadd
4.tulak hord
5.ludo kressh
6.lord simus
(vitiate)
7.exar kun
8.darth revan
9.darth nihilus
10.uliq quel droma

i really hate the pt jedi i mean they did nothing but die to droids the ancient sith are the TRUE lords.

Originally posted by Ancient Sithfan
My list would be.

1.marka ragnos
2.naga sadow
3.freedon nadd
4.tulak hord
5.ludo kressh
6.lord simus
(vitiate)
7.exar kun
8.darth revan
9.darth nihilus
10.uliq quel droma

i really hate the pt jedi i mean they did nothing but die to droids the ancient sith are the TRUE lords.

DAMN amazing list. FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS STARWARS HERE!.

Originally posted by Ragnosfan1998
DAMN amazing list. FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS STARWARS HERE!.

thanks man i found this forum by looking for topics on naga sadow and i found naga sadow vs darth revan and i came here naga sadow is my favorite character.

Lord Simus.
Above VITIATE.
Seriously?

Also, this is about raw power. Sith Magic uses spells that "calls" the Dark side on whatever you chose and does a chain reaction corresponding to the spell. Like if you want an amulet filled with dark side power, you perform whatever incantation allows the Dark side to reside in said amulet. Or causing a star to go Supernova. But those spells are meant to cause those effects, meaning Naga can't make someone asplode like he can with a Star, or else Aleema instead of destroying the star to lifewipe Ossus would have rather, you know, destroyed Ossus. And how Naga instead of destroying a star would have just destroyed the ships chasing him. Or just solo the fleet.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Lord Simus.
Above VITIATE.
Seriously?

Wasn't Simus a ****ing head in a jar?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Wasn't Simus a ****ing head in a jar?

Pretty much lol. Ragnos beheaded him a duel and kept himself alive with his hatred. I swear their argument for Simus being above him is probably going to be him challenging Ragnos.

Oh, well clearly a badass.

The Ancient Sith, whilst powerful figures in the mythos, are not invincible like few seem to claim. Sidious is canonically (basically factually, as stated in multiple sources written by actual authors) the most powerful sith lord to ever exist. No other sith has accomplished what sidious did, and that's fact. He's created force storms that ravaged fleets and planets, he actually defeated the jedi order, and with the help of Plagueis, unbalanced the force itself (if you don't believe me, instead of arbitrarily claiming it to be false, read the Plagueis novel) has clouded the vision of thousands of jedi, is one of the few who could stand up against master yoda and mace windu (note that when windu fought sidious, windu was delving into vaapad like never before, allowing him to keep up with sidious). Yoda was canonically the most powerful jedi there ever was, until luke came. Also, people say "LOL IN MOVIES SID NEVER MOVED THAT FAST!!!" Do you honestly expect the creators of the movie to make them move at near-relatavistic speeds? No, because no one would be able to keep up. And in the novels (which are canon), it states that sidious and windu were moving so fast anakin couldn't even see it (the same anakin could react to ships going at sub-light speeds). This is why Naga Sadow throwing a brick, or the vague tulak story of pulling a 300 meter capital ship out of the sky, don't compare with sidious.

No. Vitiate also surpassed Ragnos.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
The Ancient Sith, whilst powerful figures in the mythos, are not invincible like few seem to claim. Sidious is canonically (basically factually, as stated in multiple sources written by actual authors) the most powerful sith lord to ever exist. No other sith has accomplished what sidious did, and that's fact. He's created force storms that ravaged fleets and planets, he actually defeated the jedi order, and with the help of Plagueis, unbalanced the force itself (if you don't believe me, instead of arbitrarily claiming it to be false, read the Plagueis novel) has clouded the vision of thousands of jedi, is one of the few who could stand up against master yoda and mace windu (note that when windu fought sidious, windu was delving into vaapad like never before, allowing him to keep up with sidious). Yoda was canonically the most powerful jedi there ever was, until luke came. Also, people say "LOL IN MOVIES SID NEVER MOVED THAT FAST!!!" Do you honestly expect the creators of the movie to make them move at near-relatavistic speeds? No, because no one would be able to keep up. And in the novels (which are canon), it states that sidious and windu were moving so fast anakin couldn't even see it (the same anakin could react to ships going at sub-light speeds). This is why Naga Sadow throwing a brick, or the vague tulak story of pulling a 300 meter capital ship out of the sky, don't compare with sidious.

Also I heard that the choreographer for the fights said that if we were actually there we wouldn't see them.

Originally posted by The Merchant
No. Vitiate also surpassed Ragnos.

This is true, due to it being stated in CANON quotes:

The Sith Emperor is the most powerful Force-user who has ever existed. Unless this implacable enemy can be defeated, the Jedi Order is doomed. (SWTORE, Page 89)

The Sith Emperor has mastered the dark side's power to become the most dominating Force-user the galaxy has ever seen. His corrupting influence is so complete that none can stand in his presence without succumbing to fear, anger and hatred. The Emperor can wither and ruin even the strongest Jedi's connection to the light side.(SWTOR: Codex Entry)

1.Sidious
2.Plagueis
3.Sith Emperor
4.Marka Ragnos
5.Darth Cadeus
6.Exar Kun
7.Darth Krayt
8.Darth Bane
9.Darth Nox
10.Emperors Wrath

DAMN there are so many powerful sithlords now, Vader is hard to fit into the top 10!.