Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Or maybe, just maybe, a character is different in her modern incarnation then during CoIE when power levels had a very massive shift. But you know, whatever. Which is why she was conclusively below Superman and was killed off panel by slightly above cannon fodder.Scans of her gathering them in her body and how it relates to durability? Actually, just give me the issue number. No need to derail this into a Superman topic again. Especially when trying to extrapolate feats for Prime through Superman through Harbringer by something she did during the Pre-Crisis era.
But of course feats don't mean much to you, unless its from Thor. Of course she was beneath superman, Loeb Superman is just that powerful.
Also I posted them on this thread. Its firmly in post-crisis era rage.
Originally posted by abhilegend
There is no different incarnation of Harbinger. Its the same Harbinger from COIE and that was settled in her first post-crisis appearance in the History of DCU.But of course feats don't mean much to you, unless its from Thor. Of course she was beneath superman, Loeb Superman is just that powerful.
Also I posted them on this thread. Its firmly in post-crisis era rage.
What's the history of the DCU, like a handbook? No matter how much you try to deny it, anyone with any a cursory knowledge of the DCU knows that there was a huge shift in power levels after the Crisis, even for characters not affected by the event like New Gods and Green Lanterns.
Also, issue number please of the feat.
In Mangog's last appearance, Thor said he was more powerful then ever and then one shots him. That doesn't mean he's capable of taking out Silver Age Mangog now. It's called applying common sense.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIt was published to showcase the history of DCU post-crisis for people like you who couldn't differentiate between pre-crisis and post crisis DCU.
What's the history of the DCU, like a handbook?
No matter how much you try to deny it, anyone with any a cursory knowledge of the DCU knows that there was a huge shift in power levels after the Crisis, even for characters not affected by the event like New Gods and Green Lanterns.This is not the case here. The feats and power level of Harbinger were acknowledged post-crisis. You are using strawman arguments here. Pre-crisis feats are valid for characters if they have been referenced post-crisis. Its a mod ruling at this point.
Also, issue number please of the feat.COIE 6. Don't tell me you haven't read COIE. You have, right?
In Mangog's last appearance, Thor said he was more powerful then ever and then one shots him. That doesn't mean he's capable of taking out Silver Age Mangog now. It's called applying common sense.Another strawman argument. Who's talking about Thor here now?
Originally posted by abhilegend
It was published to showcase the history of DCU post-crisis for people like you who couldn't differentiate between pre-crisis and post crisis DCU. This is not the case here. The feats and power level of Harbinger were acknowledged post-crisis. You are using strawman arguments here. Pre-crisis feats are valid for characters if they have been referenced post-crisis. Its a mod ruling at this point.COIE 6. Don't tell me you haven't read COIE. You have, right?
Another strawman argument. Who's talking about Thor here now?
I thought the rule of thumb was that just because a Pre-Crisis story was referenced Post-Crisis, that doesn't mean everything happened exactly the same way as history indicates that there are different changes, particularly power levels, no? I'm fine with that.
How is that a straw man? I'm trying to explain to you how to apply common sense, Thor is simply a character I'm much more familiar with. I have read CoIE, that doesn't mean I've memorized it. 😬 But I'll check it out.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I thought the rule of thumb was that just because a Pre-Crisis story was referenced Post-Crisis, that doesn't mean everything happened exactly the same way as history indicates that there are different changes, particularly power levels, no? I'm fine with that.How is that a straw man? I'm trying to explain to you how to apply common sense, Thor is simply a character I'm much more familiar with. I have read CoIE, that doesn't mean I've memorized it. 😬 But I'll check it out.
That's exactly why that's a strawman. Thor has nothing to do with this topic.
You should read it first.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😂Why so angry? It's just a thread, no need to get your panties in a twist.
For the record, I think Prime win but I've seen posters constantly ignore relative feats and just argue that Prime wins because he survived a Universal explosion. I was just curious how many posters would do a 180 in their reasoning/arguments.
angry? pointing out its a bait thread is being angry? 😬
so basically you admit it was just a troll thread for the trolling... so basically exactly what i said... ok 👆
Originally posted by wolverinos
angry? pointing out its a bait thread is being angry? 😬so basically you admit it was just a troll thread for the trolling... so basically exactly what i said... ok 👆
In what way was this a bait thread? Who was I trying to bait exactly? This thread wasn't made in response to anything but created on a whim because I was bored and the board was dead. I've barely even posted in it. 😐
How am I trolling?
Also, this is pretty rich coming from a guy who makes a Hyperion vs. Thor thread right after I made this one. If anyone made a bait thread and is trolling, it's you. If you're confident enough, we can submit these facts to a moderator and see what the outcome is. 🙂
^ Yeah. For instance, if Hyperion ends up having to spend an entire issue defeating a widely-derided scrub like Sodam Yat, being challenged by someone on the level of Kon-El repeatedly, and getting his salad tossed by a Teen Titans-level team, it would be best to rethink just how powerful he is, despite the amazing universe-level feats he possesses.
