HoT and Barsenthor Run 2 Gauntlets

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
the problem is: he has not displayed ANYTHING after he destroyed that planet and became much more powerful, that puts him ahead of sidious

Edit: where do you get the idea that vitiate added revan's power to his own? i thought that he simply pried revan's mind for information.

He easily owned 5 of the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy at the same time with his lightning. Not to mention the whole mind control dealie.

It say he did so at the end of Revan.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
the problem is: he has not displayed ANYTHING after he destroyed that planet and became much more powerful, that puts him ahead of sidious

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This pretty much sums it up. And while I'd forgive it and chalk it up to stylistic variance, the fact is that neither Karpyshyn nor TOR are known for subtle depictions of the Force. In his very limited showings, depicted by writers known for imbuing characters with LOLZ FORCE BLOW SHIT UP +7, Vitiate is inordinately flaccid.

im sorry, but is his overpowering of the 4 jedi his only claim to fame? i mean, sure he mind dominated 8000 willing, fodder, scared sith, but his combat feats are rather lacking. example: sure, vitiate could easily over power 2 of the most powerful jedi in the galaxy and two questionably powerful jedi, but Palpatine could and would have defeated 4 of the greatest swordsmen the order ever produced, had windu not gone super-vaapad amp, plus considering palp's lightning bended windu's saber, while hero of tython blocked vitiate's lightning without noticeable difficulty, and considering that DE sid coulda force stormed all of tython, and speed blitz most of the jedi who'd ever actually confront him, im not sure how vitiate compares.

Palpatine speedblitz isn't really an example of power. Whereas Vitiate overpowering 5 powerful Jedi at once most certainly is.

it shows sid's insane superiority over vitiate in the sabers department.

Edit: what about the rest of my post?

Sidious never 'bended' Windu's lightsaber.

I believe he does, canonically

and plus if you consider that windu clearly struggled against sidious's lightning, while hero blocks vitiate's without much difficulty on nexus...

Not in the movie. The book itself doesn't even really say it either.

The Hero is more powerful than Windu, who wasn't struggling that much with Sidious' lightning considering her could push his lightsaber towards Sidious through it.

Now, my question to you is: why is Vitiate such a puss in light of his background and efforts?

the hero wasn't that much stronger than windu, and the hero was casually advancing against the emperor, plus considering that windu struggled with sidious's not-at-full-power lightning, and i think it also says in the novelization that if sidious kept blasting his lightning at windu, he would have been overwhelmed,and the only reason sidious didnt do so was to enthrall anakin

Lose at 6 and 4.

The HoT was advancing against it only after Vitiate was severely exhausted.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Now, my question to you is: why is Vitiate such a puss in light of his background and efforts?

Lack of exposure perhaps. He's only been shown 3 times after all.

Just plain bad writing could be another reason*. I mean, they made him freakishly overpowered in terms of accolades and backstory yet completely bumbled when it came to showing his power.

Perhaps his power has been stunted in some way, such as through embedding his power in so many servants. Frankly its incredibly impressive that hes as powerful as he is when he stomps the Strike Team despite having his power imbued into hundreds of his Children.

Personally I'd like an answer to this myself. Whats your opinion?

* Mainly Karpyshan I suspect.

Originally posted by Master Han

Who's "Vivican"?

Malgus' master in the Return trailer. I just spelled it wrong.
And Kreiá drain isn't allowed here.

doesn't vitiate also sipher power from the children?