The Punisher w/ Wrecker's Crowbar vs. Luke Cage w/ Wrecker's Crowbar

To the death. Punisher has the crowbar only.

vs.

probably cage.

Am I missing something? How is this not a stomp in Cage's favor?

Frank's skill advantage is significant. Faster, better stamina and more agile, too. Cage is not a common streetfighter, but he's not anywhere near Castle's level, either.

What better stamina

Cage doesn't have superhuman stamina. Only strength and durability. Slightly enhanced healing, too, but nothing that could matter during a fight.

Increased superhuman stats just that his durability is that much greater then the rest of his stats

No. He doesn't have all stats increased. Just strength and durability, the latter more than strength. Lack of stamina is his weakness as noted by Daredevil, handbook says the same thing.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No. He doesn't have all stats increased. Just strength and durability, the latter more than strength. Lack of stamina is his weakness as noted by Daredevil, handbook says the same thing.

That makes no sense whatsoever. Having a higher level of strength doesn't automatically mean that you have a higher endurance level especially if your a couch potato, but Cage doesn't really sit on his duff either. Handbooks aren't really the most reliable info on characters especially since they are contradicted by character showings all of the time.

I guess that we're just supposed to accept the fact that Cage can toss a city bus, but would have trouble running around around a 1/4 mile track huh?

Punisher morphs the crowbar into a rifle that fires little crowbars out of it

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No. He doesn't have all stats increased. Just strength and durability, the latter more than strength. Lack of stamina is his weakness as noted by Daredevil, handbook says the same thing.

Originally posted by -K-M-
[b]Wrecker
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Crowbar
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Unworthy Weilders
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Spectacular Spider-Man #126 [Vol.1]:
Only Wrecker can wield the crowbar with power, without him it’s just a hunk of metal as Spider-Woman finds out

1. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/SpectacularSpider-Man126-03.jpg
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Thor #418 [Vol.1]:
Here Wrecker reveals the crowbar only channels his power as he is the true power of the crowbar. Without him channeling it it's only just a regular crowbar

1. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Thor_1990_418_07.jpg [/B]

Bendis 👆

For a moment there I think the sound made by the hit was "Kang". I need to lay down and rest a little.

Originally posted by Damborgson

Bendis 👆

Not just Bendis. Brubaker, too (Daredevil was able to hurt Wrecker with his own crowbar). And whoever wrote Punisher at that time (Fraction?).

Mungi is right that it wasn't intended to work like that, though.

Originally posted by zopzop
Scans? I just find this hard to believe. You sure DD wasn't talking smack against Cage?

Shadowland one-shot, Murdock states that tiring Cage out is the way to win. If DD was just bullshitting, he wouldn't challenge him into a sparring match.

Everything ever said about his powers just involves str, dur and healing (recovers perhaps as fast as Classic Beast, iirc).