Originally posted by StoicThanos is not as strong as Tyrant. You can't use ABC logic like that. Otherwise, I can say that anyone who fights Gladiator can match planetary force. Tyrant while strong, isn't as strong as you think he is. I wouldn't quite say he's strong as Superman.
Thanos is confirmed to have mid-high Trans strength while not amping based on his skirmish with Tyrant who was able to dunk a high herald like I dunk a cookie in milk. Who? Gladiator.Odin was able to slam Thor ( another high herald-low Trans) without a trace or hint of him amping his abilities.
Odin was also able to toss Thanos whom like a said is a confirmed Mid-high Trans level in terms of brute strength.
Odin has High Sky Father level strength that would place him on or near that of Tyrant's level of strength.
Just like Odin could one shot slap the Surfer out, he would be able to do the same to Superman.
let me go back to Thanos for a second, because i know that you will launch some form of rebuttal. But this guy was able to contend with Thor who was using the Power gem to amplify all of his physical stats. There is no question about this. I read, and re-read the arc to somehow see if Thor was using the Power gem fully. I didn't get a clear answer, but he was indeed tapping into it.
Please stay away from handbooks that are well known for messing up or conflicting on panel evidence such as feats with the nonsense that is written within those pages.
Thanos is not stronger than Superman, who is a lot stronger than the average high herald level being.
This logic also goes for Odin. Odin one shot Surfer by a blast, not physical strength.
Also Thor was only shown or stated to tap into the gem when he reversed Strange and Warlock's blasts and when he was trapped in the block.
Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos is not as strong as Tyrant. You can't use ABC logic like that. Otherwise, I can say that anyone who fights Gladiator can match planetary force. Tyrant while strong, isn't as strong as you think he is. I wouldn't quite say he's strong as Superman.
Anyone class 100 can dunk a 300lb being like a cookie. Tossing people around doesn't mean you are stronger than them. Spidey has tossed many characters around who were a lot stronger than him. Also peers have tossed each other around, but they still are peers.Thanos is not stronger than Superman, who is a lot stronger than the average high herald level being.
This logic also goes for Odin. Odin one shot Surfer by a blast, not physical strength.
Also Thor was only shown or stated to tap into the gem when he reversed Strange and Warlock's blasts and when he was trapped in the block.
Tyrant beat Gladiator with a smile on his face, he would crush Superman. Thanos would as well. Don't kid yourself. Seriously.
Also where in God's name did you get the notion that Tyrant wasn't that strong? Are you kidding me right now? What next? Superman is stronger than Galactus?
Originally posted by Stoic
Tyrant beat Gladiator with a smile on his face, he would crush Superman. Thanos would as well. Don't kid yourself. Seriously.Also where in God's name did you get the notion that Tyrant wasn't that strong? Are you kidding me right now? What next? Superman is stronger than Galactus?
Know he didn't. Gladiator was matching Tyrant at first. Tyrant would probably beat Superman but it wouldn't be easy at all. But's that is irrelevant as we are talking about physical strength, nothing more.
Because Tyrant wasn't that strong. Beating up heralds isn't too impressive in my book. Things like benching the Earth or exerting more than 50 Earth weights of force is more impressive in my book. I've seen heralds one shot heralds before. So what? Tyrant is probably stronger than all heralds with the exception of Superman at his best. But Thanos isn't at his strength and neither is Odin.
Originally posted by juggermanI recall that not so much. But by all means, let me know where in the venerable series of Countdown Superman Prime w/ Guardian amp was losing his amp before even encountering Monarch. I'll have to be honest, I haven't read that classic for the ages in years.
Prime was losing the amp before the fight iirc
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You can do say whatever you want, but unless you have some actual evidence to support your conclusion, there's no possible argument to be made around this very clear on panel statement:It's not vague, said mockingly or sarcastically. Prime was pissed, really pissed because it hurt. It really, really, hurt.
dude what you are doing now is being nothing but a butthurt troll.
was Prime hurt? no... he was only pissed.
Prime stating it really hurt was nothing but his ordinary douchery , same as when he was mocking black adam and saying "it hurt".
i am not saying that attack tickled him as well, however its the same thing as a bully who punches the nerd, then the nerd suddenly hits him, the bully is like wtf? that hurt you little dweeb.
its not like the nerd hurt the bully or anything, it was just a statement out of full confidence and douchery, the statement is there to present the other side being amazed someone dares to inflict anything on him.
and beyond that there are also the facts that back me up.
the Fact Prime wasnt even hurt, strange how it suppose to really really hurt but he doesnt bleed, no bruise, and even further not even any damage to his cloth.
the other fact is Prime taking a universal blast which clearly disproves your idiotic claim.
Originally posted by ODG
I recall that not so much. But by all means, let me know where in the venerable series of Countdown Superman Prime w/ Guardian amp was losing his amp before even encountering Monarch. I'll have to be honest, I haven't read that classic for the ages in years.
dude.. i will make it simple for you.
if you cant present any kind of evidence, that Prime was losing his amp because of the fight with monarch, and not because of Time factor... then STFU.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Pretty much everything you've stated, since your entire argument is based on handbooks/bios and maybe a respect thread or two.
My argument is that Odin is only high herald level strength, under Superman.
I based this off his showings (not handbooks). If I based this off handbooks then I would say that Odin isn't even high herald level but meta human instead.