Galactus heralds vs Dbz

Started by BloodRain3 pages

Oh how about it taking as long as Dende's for Freeza to fly maybe a mile or two?

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Raditz was faster than light and hes the weakest of the sayians so ya im pretty sure their fast maybe even faster thats just my guess in how fast they are.

They're not that fast.

It was stated by piccolo when he dodge his beam cannon which is light speed and he didn't dodge immediately he stood there for a sec. then moved

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Raditz was faster than light and hes the weakest of the sayians so ya im pretty sure their fast maybe even faster thats just my guess in how fast they are.

The hell he is. I don't even think frieza was that fast. Light speed doesn't come around to at least the cell saga.

Originally posted by battlemaster161
It was stated by piccolo when he dodge his beam cannon which is light speed and he didn't dodge immediately he stood there for a sec. then moved

Wasn't that in the Dub Anime?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Wasn't that in the Dub Anime?

Yes but it still canon

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
The hell he is. I don't even think frieza was that fast. Light speed doesn't come around to at least the cell saga.

freeza was faster than light in his base form

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Raditz was faster than light and hes the weakest of the sayians so ya im pretty sure their fast maybe even faster thats just my guess in how fast they are.

No Z character can move faster than light under their own power without IT. That "faster than light" BS was a dub error. By the android saga, the Z warriors are dumbfounded that Goku can teleport to Roshi's place and back in a few seconds; even Gotenks circumnavigates the Earth slower than C. There is numerous to debunk this rather trite misconception. If Z warriors were FTL, Goku and Vegeta wouldn't have failed to rescue Gohan/Goten/Trunks/Piccolo.

Galactus's heralds can move FTL and bust stars - the most powerful DBZ characters are still STL and planet busters at best.

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Yes but it still canon

No it isn't. If they were then Goku ITing to Roshi's....

Damn you Han!

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Yes but it still canon

Nooo nonono.. no.

No DBZer approaches c, lol.

yes it is if its stated or it happens then its canon im not a fanboy i just dislike marvel fanboys so much cause they think any superhero could solo anything so i try to prove them wrong. hell i met a no life who said hulk could solo the freaking dc universe.

And also do u have a scan thats shows todays silver surfer has any chance of soloing

Originally posted by battlemaster161
yes it is if its stated or it happens then its canon im not a fanboy i just dislike marvel fanboys so much cause they think any superhero could solo anything so i try to prove them wrong. hell i met a no life who said hulk could solo the freaking dc universe.

The anime directly contradicts the manga on multiple major plot points; the two universes simply are not compatible.

And BTW, if you wish to take the anime as canon, I'd point out that the characters AREN'T MOVING VERY FAST based on what we, you know, actually see. The manga's comic medium sort of sidesteps this argument. But hey, anime's canon, right?

Originally posted by battlemaster161
yes it is if its stated or it happens then its canon im not a fanboy i just dislike marvel fanboys so much cause they think any superhero could solo anything so i try to prove them wrong. hell i met a no life who said hulk could solo the freaking dc universe.
Piccolo's exasperated and shocked assessment of the situation isn't much of a gauge for the entire franchise's standards. You should have brought up the speed at which his energy blast hits the moon, that was near light speed--making the casual dodging of such attacks seem comparable in speed.

But even that example is problematic. It makes it look like an off-the-cuff blast can destroy a planetoid, yet far stronger characters explode with everything they can muster and it only scratches the surface beneath their feet. DBZ has too many incarnations of the anime and manga to be used properly, at least when trying to use all of them at once. Even one at a time, they tend to contradict themselves.

Just remember, Vegeta's a liar, and power levels are bullshit.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Light speed doesn't come around to at least the cell saga.

I thought it was later than that? I guess the answer to my next question should be obvious, but who first achieved it?

Goku via instant tranmission.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
The hell he is. I don't even think frieza was that fast. Light speed doesn't come around to at least the cell saga.

Nah. Even SSJ Gotenks can't travel at light speed when he flies around the Earth. Nobody in Z or GT can without IT.

What can Goku do in God form?

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Yes but it still canon
In terms of canonicity, the manga>>>the anime.

That said, the manga does not say anything about Raditz moving > c when he dodged Piccolo's SBC, as the anime does:
http://imgur.com/KalgMGd
http://imgur.com/VSGbU2W
http://imgur.com/uGBQbgT

Like others have said, we didn't begin seeing light speed+ travel in DBZ until Goku learned to utilize instant transmission.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
What can Goku do in God form?
Contend with Bills(the God of destruction), who was stated by Akira himself to be more powerful than any being(s) ever seen in DBZ(which would include Buuhan and Vegito)-- a fact he proved by utterly shit-stomping the likes of SSJ3 Goku, Mystic Gohan, Gotenks, etc. etc. with laughable ease.

Though it should be noted that Bills was reportedly only utilizing 70% of his power when he and SSJG Goku battled.

I definitely need to see the movie now.