Exactly.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
That is retarded. Rakatans are all humanoid, why is the Infernal One suddenly a giant. And yeah Dread Master Styrak's enrage mode is him turning into a gigantic version of himself, where he attempts to smite the team.
Ok, that sounds pretty awesome. My guess is amazing cosmic force powers. I mean the Dread Masters are hugely powerful and several centuries old.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
No it isn't. Gameplay is non-canon because it is silly. Otherwise you'd have people tanking dozens of blasterbolts, resisting lightsaber wounds, and tanking grenades rockets, and thermal detonators unmolested. If we take it as canon, those same meteors can be casually tanked by a non force user like the Sith Agent. So either Revan pulled down some unnaturally soft meteors or that feat hardly counts as canon.
Well obviously that shit isn't canon. People don't really have health-bars you need to whittle down. But Revan pulling the meteors down still is, because its completely different than that. Its like how in Zelda Ganon floats and shoots lightning balls at you. Just because it happens inside a gameplay segment doesn't make it non-canon or a mere gameplay mechanic. Revan pulling down meteors is a coded sequence that happens in the fight.
Originally posted by ares834
I'd argue its not a mechanic at all though. It's an unique ability that Revan is guranteed to use over the course of a fight.It's like Sion resurrecting himself in KotORII or Malak's ability to drain the Jedi.
So? The JC also has an ability to throw rocks at you even if you are on a starship and there are no rocks to throw. I am not going to cross that line because if you include gameplay shit gets ludicrous. Every character has the ability to then tank lightsaber blows.
No it isn't because Sion and Malak both have cutscenes where they first use it.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
So? The JC also has an ability to throw rocks at you even if you are on a starship and there are no rocks to throw. I am not going to cross that line because if you include gameplay shit gets ludicrous. Every character has the ability to then tank lightsaber blows.
You keep saying this, but I don't get why you insist it's a gameplay mechanic. Just because it happens during gameplay doesn't indicate that it is a mechanic.
Revan simply butchers Dooku, faster then Dooku can react.
Revan is in possesion of Tulak Hords holocron for hundreds of years.
Tulak Hord was the greatest lightsaber duelist in the mythos (defeated armies of Jedi, his kill count of Jedi may be as high as 1,000,000). Tulak also made all Jedi/Sith after him look like children playing with toys.
Revan beat Malak, Nyriss (who beat EXILE AND SCOURAGE, do I need to remind everyone how Exile defeated Nihilus, Sion, AND Traya) was stated to be SUPERIOR TO NIHILUS by The Exile and would have proabably killed The Sith Emperor had he not been on a DS nexus and had prep.
Revan is also, you know immortal and has had FAR more training then Dooku. And would kill all of the above opponents easily. Revan would have slashed down Mace, slashed down Yoda, pwned Savage/Ventress well playing xbox and having sex with Bastilla.
Dooku has done N-O-T-H-I-N-G impressive. He defeated AOTC Anakin/Obi Wan Kenobi, big deal?. He lost to Yoda, got his ass nailed by Anakin, ran away from Mace like a punk, and lost to SAVAGE and could barley beatoff Ventress, and lost to PIRATES.
If he was even half as good as Revan, when him and Yoda were in that saberlock he would have slashed his saber down through YODAS HEAD killing him right their.
But he didint do that, did he?.
Dooku also got his ass nailed by Yoda on a DS nexus.
Revan kills Dooku as fast as Sidious did to Kolar in ROTS. At best Dooku would do aswell as Fisto did Vs Sidious.
Originally posted by ares834
You keep saying this, but I don't get why you insist it's a gameplay mechanic. Just because it happens during gameplay doesn't indicate that it is a mechanic.
Except they are exactly that. Nothing that happens during gameplay is canon. The cutscenes are canon, that's Lucasarts has addressed this since time immemorial.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Well you see, the argument shouldn't be that darth tyranus has superior TK, rather he can most definitely keep up with revan in a TK battle, and utterly humiliate him in a lightsaber duel
Sabers: Dooku 9/10
Force: Revan (I'm being generous) 7/10
All-out: Dooku 7/10
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Except they are exactly that. Nothing that happens during gameplay is canon. The cutscenes are canon, that's Lucasarts has addressed this since time immemorial.
Show me where it says cutscenes are only canon and anything that happens in gameplay is not. All I know is that game mechanics aren't canon and, like I've said, I don't see why we would assume Revan TKing meteors is a gameplay mechanic.
Originally posted by ares834
Show me where it says cutscenes are only canon and anything that happens in gameplay is not. All I know is that game mechanics aren't canon and, like I've said, I don't see why we would assume Revan TKing meteors is a gameplay mechanic.
'Things are a bit more complicated with the matter of Star Wars games. The overall scenario and documentation (cutscenes, manuals, strategy guides etc) are proper EU (see C-canon below). This, however, doesn't apply to "game mechanics" and stats.'
-Game mechanics are the "artistic license" properties of the game that separate any computer game from reality and serve to make one more playable and enjoyable; for example Kyle Katarn carrying 10 weapons simultaneously, fully and immediately recovering from wounds simply by touching a bacta tank, bodies of defeated enemies disappearing etc., are things not realistically possible. Game mechanics are also some special effects accompanying the use of Force powers, such as sounds and glow surrounding the caster, which never appear in the movies. Health, shield, and Force repository are also game mechanics.
Pretty much this. Unless you want to accept Kyle Katarn carrying 10 weapons at once, healing by touching a bacta tank, and bodies deteriorating randomly its not canon. Gameplay is non-canon.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
'Things are a bit more complicated with the matter of Star Wars games. The overall scenario and documentation (cutscenes, manuals, strategy guides etc) are proper EU (see C-canon below). This, however, doesn't apply to "game mechanics" and stats.'
-Game mechanics are the "artistic license" properties of the game that separate any computer game from reality and serve to make one more playable and enjoyable; for example Kyle Katarn carrying 10 weapons simultaneously, fully and immediately recovering from wounds simply by touching a bacta tank, bodies of defeated enemies disappearing etc., are things not realistically possible. Game mechanics are also some special effects accompanying the use of Force powers, such as sounds and glow surrounding the caster, which never appear in the movies. Health, shield, and Force repository are also game mechanics.Pretty much this. Unless you want to accept Kyle Katarn carrying 10 weapons at once, healing by touching a bacta tank, and bodies deteriorating randomly its not canon. Gameplay is non-canon.
All this is true.
But it doesn't apply to Revan pulling down the meteors. That wasn't a stat or a game mechanic. It isn't the same thing as Katarn carrying 10 weapons.
Originally posted by Nephthys
All this is true.But it doesn't apply to Revan pulling down the meteors. That wasn't a stat or a game mechanic. It isn't the same thing as Katarn carrying 10 weapons.
Dude. How the **** can Revan pull a *meteor* down to where he is without killing himself and the party? It's a gameplay mechanic.