Avengers vs Anime Avengers · Foreign Cinema

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Ok. I'm gonna go back just to say...

Originally posted by COG Veteran
You should really enlighten yourself with some comics. You'll then realize what a rape for team comic this is for.
Anime loses due to not having the durability, speed, strength and energy projection as much on their side.

Yeah, uh... you're not one to talk. You JUST got into comics, so you're not one to tell anyone to do their research. Especially since you have no working knowledge of the respective Animeverse opposition. haermm

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Originally posted by Sacred 117
Ok. I'm gonna go back just to say...
Yeah, uh... you're not one to talk. You JUST got into comics, so you're not one to tell anyone to do their research. Especially since you have no working knowledge of the respective Animeverse opposition. haermm

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ares834 Senior Member

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
In recent history? Gorr, Surfer, the Demogorge, and arguably Valkyrie, but /meh. The case with Gorr is pretty much inarguable since we have multiple instances within that fight of people being percieved and intercepted/attacked while moving at FTL.

Gorr and Demogorge have never to my knowledge actually fought at light speed though.

Yes, Thor has good reflexes and can perceive people moving at FTL speeds but he has never shown the aptitude to keep up with someone who can fight at those speed.

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Originally posted by Sacred 117
Ok. I'm gonna go back just to say...
Yeah, uh... you're not one to talk. You JUST got into comics, so you're not one to tell anyone to do their research. Especially since you have no working knowledge of the respective Animeverse opposition. haermm

Stop being butthurt about team anime getting railed. And judging by all the support Thor has, I'm not in the wrong.

NotAllThatEvil perpetual new guy.

So assuming goku and thor could at least last five minutes, who wins with the leftovers?

ares834 Senior Member

Hulk.

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Originally posted by COG Veteran
Stop being butthurt about team anime getting railed. And judging by all the support Thor has, I'm not in the wrong.

You're not right though. You have no point to make. 😛 You actually suggested Thor use his lighting against Dialga and Arceus, BOTH of which are resistant to lightning. haermm

Besides, I was at work all day while this went on in my absence. I'm so far behind I don't even care anymore. Lol.

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Originally posted by ares834
Gorr and Demogorge have never to my knowledge actually fought at light speed though.
Yes, Thor has good reflexes and can perceive people moving at FTL speeds but he has never shown the aptitude to keep up with someone who can fight at those speed.

One sec...

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

Gorr is blasted light years away in 'moments', and the Thors follow him at massively FTL speeds. Gorr percieves them and...
Hurls chunks of moon to intercept them, which they react to.
To reiterate, Thor, while moving FTL was targetted by and reacted to a FTL asteroid. This is current Thor.

This happens again later on, except instead of a chunk of moon Gorr full body tackles Current Thor as he's travelling back to the world where they'd begun fighting initially, and they continue to fight at those speeds which leads them to the planet and moon Thor was destroying indirectly.

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Originally posted by ares834
Hulk.

Here we are in agreement, though I'd also say Iron Man. uhuh

COG Veteran Teh GrOovY 1

Originally posted by Sacred 117
You're not right though. You have no point to make. 😛 You actually suggested Thor use his lighting against Dialga and Arceus, BOTH of which are resistant to lightning. haermm
Besides, I was at work all day while this went on in my absence. I'm so far behind I don't even care anymore. Lol.

We don't know that they're resistant to magical lightning from magical hammers 😛

ares834 Senior Member

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
One sec...
This happens again later on, except instead of a chunk of moon Gorr full body tackles Current Thor as he's travelling back to the world where they'd begun fighting initially, and they continue to fight at those speeds which leads them to the planet and moon Thor was destroying indirectly.

That doesn't mean they are fighting at FTL speeds IE punching each other thousands of times in a second. It just shows them fighting while moving at such speeds and being able to perceive such attacks. Something I have never argued against.

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Originally posted by COG Veteran
We don't know that they're resistant to magical lightning from magical hammers 😛

Dialga is a dragon-type, and Arceus has 'plates' representing every type. With all of said plates, he is resistant (or immune; can't remember) to the respective type. Electricity is among them.

ares834 Senior Member

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Dialga is a dragon-type, and Arceus has 'plates' representing every type. With all of said plates, he is resistant (or immune; can't remember) to the respective type. Electricity is among them.

Thor has far more than just lightning. Plus, Arceus was knocked out by a meteor. Thor would waste him.

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Originally posted by ares834
That doesn't mean they are fighting at FTL speeds IE punching each other thousands of times in a second. It just shows them fighting while moving at such speeds and being able to perceive such attacks. Something I have never argued against.

Even that would be plenty enough to put Thor well above Goku, but Thor actively reacted to a chunk of moon moving to intercept him as he'd moved MFTL, and then Gorr intercepted him personally when he did it again, this says a lot about Gorr's combat speed and by extension Thor's own. If you can shoot a bullet out of the air, you're above bullet timing, imho, that's essentially what happened with the moon chunk, except the bullet could react to the other bul- You know what, this analogy is getting weird.

tl;dr, I think it's enough. 😛

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Oh, I have no doubt that Thor would be able to waste Goku in a fight.

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Originally posted by ares834
Thor has far more than just lightning. Plus, Arceus was knocked out by a meteor. Thor would waste him.

Anime* Arceus, yeah. Thor would waste him effortlessly. I think MewTwo is the only pokemon who has ever benefitted from the anime in terms of power.

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Originally posted by ares834
Thor has far more than just lightning. Plus, Arceus was knocked out by a meteor. Thor would waste him.

I'm simply referring to one of Vet's previous uneducated arguments.

I never actually saw the movie, but I heard most of his low showings were essential PIS.

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Anime Arceus would be wasted by Mystery Dungeon Rayquaza, honestly.

Heck, a couple hundred electric pokemon managed to harm him and keep still long enough for the plot device to work on him. Dude's kind of a pushover in that movie.

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Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Anime* Arceus, yeah. Thor would waste him effortlessly. I think MewTwo is the only pokemon who has ever benefitted from the anime in terms of power.

I'm still not sure how the anime so greatly differentiates from the games. Shouldn't they essentially be the same being? I haven't noticed any real changes in power or otherwise.

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Originally posted by Sacred 117
I'm still not sure how the anime so greatly differentiates from the games. Shouldn't they essentially be the same being? I haven't noticed any real changes in power or otherwise.

There are some pretty massive differences between them. VG Arceus created the entire pokeverse, including space and time and their respective embodiments, as well as Giratina, who is a complete badass. VG Arceus is at least cube level.