H'El VS Worldbreaker Hulk

Originally posted by carver9
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Cant tell if serious or not.

WBH and Betty destroyed the Dark Dimension, i give you that, though vastly amped. But even more amped they both stomped as giants the poor little Dragon and did almost no damage to earth. The problem with your power scaling is the fact that Superman and H'el fough on earth, the punches from supes were felt in space but Earth, Marvel and DC, isn't allowed to be destroyed. So sure the collateral Damage on earth will never be as great as that on no name planets or dimensions.

Supermans lifting feats are well above Hulks best. His strength is like He-Mans and Hulks dynamic. They are as strong as they need to be. In essence. Supes at his best, WBH at his best and He-Man at his best are equals strength wise.

Originally posted by Mshinu
H`el throws Hulk into outer space and calls it a day. 10/10

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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
New52 Superman is already established as being stronger then Savage Hulk and even WWH, he is arguably at WBH levels strength wise if he doesn't hold back. His speed is by far superior. H'el was still above Supes.

The portrayal of H'el alone puts him over WBH.

Originally posted by JBL
Superman can stop holding back all he wants and still would not be in WBH strength class. Not even close. Please show me this myth known as a " non-holding back superman being soooooo much stronger. He has fought plenty people on panel and was not holding back and was nothing special. Even gotten his ass beaten. Do you think he was holding back during his on panel ass whoopings?

Pre-N52

OWAW Superman, far beyond Supes. FC Superman, best strength feat ever.

N52, Bench pressing Earth 5 days without sunlight, and even this wasn't near his max.

= better then anything WBH ever lifted.

Hey, hey superman never gains a strength boost when going all out. This is all in speculation as this never happened where Ignition casually curbstomps superman and when he threatens Lois, superman oneshots his ass

Or when he oneshots bizarro when he was vastly weakened by emperor joker

Its just in our minds./sarcasm

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
WBH and Betty destroyed the Dark Dimension, i give you that, though vastly amped. But even more amped they both stomped as giants the poor little Dragon and did almost no damage to earth. The problem with your power scaling is the fact that Superman and H'el fough on earth, the punches from supes were felt in space but Earth, Marvel and DC, isn't allowed to be destroyed. So sure the collateral Damage on earth will never be as great as that on no name planets or dimensions.

Supermans lifting feats are well above Hulks best. His strength is like He-Mans and Hulks dynamic. They are as strong as they need to be. In essence. Supes at his best, WBH at his best and He-Man at his best are equals strength wise.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hey, hey superman never gains a strength boost when going all out. This is all in speculation as this never happened where Ignition casually curbstomps superman and when he threatens Lois, superman oneshots his ass

Or when he oneshots bizarro when he was vastly weakened by emperor joker

Its just in our minds./sarcasm

Originally posted by 80sBaby
Only Betty was amped. WBH was just Hulk fully unleashed, no outside amp. And since when does Editorial Mandate matter I'm a versus match? NuSuperman hasn't shown the ability to destroy a planet nor does he have the durability feats to survive what Hulk did. And lifting feats don't necessarily translate into punching power.

What does this have to do with Nu52 Superman? I thought we used current versions unless otherwise specified.

Originally posted by carver9
Taking out Superman.

Tanking a punch from Supergirl.

Moving a big block of ice at super speed.

Defeating Superboy.

Showing some teleportation and versatility.

Defeating Superman again.

Now lets name some Savage Hulk fts...

Originally posted by abhilegend
JBL didn't specify which version of superman he wanted to hate.

WBH wins.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
WBH and Betty destroyed the Dark Dimension, i give you that, though vastly amped. But even more amped they both stomped as giants the poor little Dragon and did almost no damage to earth. The problem with your power scaling is the fact that Superman and H'el fough on earth, the punches from supes were felt in space but Earth, Marvel and DC, isn't allowed to be destroyed. So sure the collateral Damage on earth will never be as great as that on no name planets or dimensions.

Supermans lifting feats are well above Hulks best. His strength is like He-Mans and Hulks dynamic. They are as strong as they need to be. In essence. Supes at his best, WBH at his best and He-Man at his best are equals strength wise.

To bad the punches Superman was hitting H'el with were described as mountain level.

Lol...the people that has taken Superman down in DCNU would get one punched by WBH. You basing anything off of one showing of strength doesn't help your argument. WBH is stronger than all of them, Indestructible Hulk and WWH is stronger as well. Hell, recently a calm Savage Hulk was punching someone in the stomach and the shockwaves was destroying Earth. That's SAVAGE Hulk.

We can lost fts of DCNU and Indestructible Hulk if you want.

Originally posted by Warlord
ok on paper H'el is a beast but can anyone mention any significant feats?

However WBH edges him out in terms of brute strength and raw power here. I'd give him the win over most other Hulk incarnations, but against a hell-destroyer like the Worldbreaker, H'El meets his demise.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
You should be more precise. Saying he beat Superboy doesn't sound like much. Had you explained the manner in which he did it...its something else.

I agree.

He one-shotted Ignition with 3 punches, freeze breath and heat vision?

Originally posted by 80sBaby
Only Betty was amped. WBH was just Hulk fully unleashed, no outside amp. And since when does Editorial Mandate matter I'm a versus match? NuSuperman hasn't shown the ability to destroy a planet nor does he have the durability feats to survive what Hulk did. And lifting feats don't necessarily translate into punching power.

What does this have to do with Nu52 Superman? I thought we used current versions unless otherwise specified.

WBH was immortal too, due to his wish everyone was ressurected, so he could fight and fight and fight. That's more or less an amp. And he didn't destroy earth, in giant form, with betty, vastly more amped then WBH levels. Why? because it's earth.

He can bench press an planet for 5 straight days, seems to me he could destroy it too if it wasn't earth. So His lifting feats are greater, so he is stronger then WBH since he has the better feats. In weightlifting. WBH has a better punching feat, so he punches harder? Well Supes punches were felt on the watchtower, while he punched H'el on earth, that's as good as WBH stomping FinFangFong without destroying earth, again together with betty vastly amped in giant form. So they are comparable punch wise. Give him some time and he will get his Planet destroying punch, not a shared one like WBH, though it might take some time as Supes isn't the destructive kind of guy. 😉

Originally posted by carver9
To bad the punches Superman was hitting H'el with were described as mountain level.

Lol...the people that has taken Superman down in DCNU would get one punched by WBH. You basing anything off of one showing of strength doesn't help your argument. WBH is stronger than all of them, Indestructible Hulk and WWH is stronger as well. Hell, recently a calm Savage Hulk was punching someone in the stomach and the shockwaves was destroying Earth. That's SAVAGE Hulk.

We can lost fts of DCNU and Indestructible Hulk if you want.

And were felt in space? Makes them as good as Hulks best on earth.

No they don''t, just because you say it doesn't make it true. WBH isn't stronger. Some guys from the DC N52 who are stronger then WBH, Superman, Shazam, Black Adam, Wonder Woman, MM, Aquaman. See just because one says something doesn't make it true, your opinion that WBH is stronger then all from DC is in the same BS league.

Ok show me a greater lifting feat from Hulk then the 5 days without sun (means weakening) benchpressing earth without breaking a sweat, .... ok 1 drop.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
WBH was immortal too, due to his wish everyone was ressurected, so he could fight and fight and fight. That's more or less an amp. And he didn't destroy earth, in giant form, with betty, vastly more amped then WBH levels. Why? because it's earth.

He can bench press an planet for 5 straight days, seems to me he could destroy it too if it wasn't earth. So His lifting feats are greater, so he is stronger then WBH since he has the better feats. In weightlifting. WBH has a better punching feat, so he punches harder? Well Supes punches were felt on the watchtower, while he punched H'el on earth, that's as good as WBH stomping FinFangFong without destroying earth, again together with betty vastly amped in giant form. So they are comparable punch wise. Give him some time and he will get his Planet destroying punch, not a shared one like WBH, though it might take some time as Supes isn't the destructive kind of guy. 😉

And were felt in space? Makes them as good as Hulks best on earth.

No they don''t, just because you say it doesn't make it true. WBH isn't stronger. Some guys from the DC N52 who are stronger then WBH, Superman, Shazam, Black Adam, Wonder Woman, MM, Aquaman. See just because one says something doesn't make it true, your opinion that WBH is stronger then all from DC is in the same BS league.

Ok show me a greater lifting feat from Hulk then the 5 days without sun (means weakening) benchpressing earth without breaking a sweat, .... ok 1 drop.

The punches were still claimed as mountain busting. Nice ft but it isn't what you are trying to make it bro.

I'm not arguing with you on who is stronger than WBH since you underate the character greatly.

Why would I have to show planetary strength when Hulk have those in spades? Did you forget about a weakened Savage Hulk holding planet Sakaar together. Then thats just one showing. Guess what, Hulk has an unlimited source of planetary showing. Not just one writer opinion.

How about you show me Superman punches causing planetary damage.

^ Worldbreaker Hulk ran a rape train on Superman's feats. This is old news. Some people will never get over it.

Originally posted by carver9
The punches were still claimed as mountain busting. Nice ft but it isn't what you are trying to make it bro.

I'm not arguing with you on who is stronger than WBH since you underate the character greatly.

Why would I have to show planetary strength when Hulk have those in spades? Did you forget about a weakened Savage Hulk holding planet Sakaar together. Then thats just one showing. Guess what, Hulk has an unlimited source of planetary showing. Not just one writer opinion.

How about you show me Superman punches causing planetary damage.

It's as good as anything WBH did on earth 😉.

No I don't, I think he is up there with the best, like Supes and He-Man.

So you can't show me a greater lifting feat from Hulk? Ok we agree, for now Superman is stronger, thanks for playing 😉.

Wow, Abhi isn't a one-off... Are these guys actually just joke iPhone apps? Like a cross between a SpamBot and a Fart App?

WBH wins this.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hey, hey superman never gains a strength boost when going all out. This is all in speculation as this never happened where Ignition casually curbstomps superman and when he threatens Lois, superman oneshots his ass

Or when he oneshots bizarro when he was vastly weakened by emperor joker

Its just in our minds./sarcasm

I can show scans of heros getting their butts beat, then all of a sudden make a dramatic ( plot planned ) comeback and beat the bad guy ALL DAY LONG. I guess they also got soooooo much stronger huh?? Learn the difference between getting stronger and heros time to win.

Theres not a writer in the world that would say that superman, CM and Black Adam are peers until superman stops holding back.GOODNESS.