......... Black Bolt Vs Green Lantern ...........

Started by Odekahn3 pages

Originally posted by deathslash
It is true that he could cut off the oxygen flow in his lungs. However, how often has Hal used such a tactic? Calling out a power or ability that a character can use but has only ever used once or twice and expecting them to use it in a normal fight is a little far fetched don't you think?

I know that he wouldn't start off with full powered screams. However, I need you to realize that in his fight on the moon, he was just whispering.

It all depends on the villain he is fighting and how many times said villain has appeared. But just seeing it once lets us know that the character is both aware and capable of such.

Whispering where? At Hulk? Because it sure looked like a yell to me.

Originally posted by Supermex
You should refrain from useing the word Fan- boy plz
Some peeps take it as an insult and most of your post are pro Dc, so its like a double edge sword for you..

Lets just be cool and have fun peeps..

Well, thank you for your concern, but if someone else takes what I am saying wrong, that's on them. I talk how I talk and I don't change. I will clarify if I think someone takes me wrong, but I'm going to say whatever I want. I do understand the position that you are attempting to come from though.

And that's funny that you say most of my posts are pro DC. I love both companies and think I'm pretty fair across the board.

Originally posted by Odekahn
It all depends on the villain he is fighting and how many times said villain has appeared. But just seeing it once lets us know that the character is both aware and capable of such.

Whispering where? At Hulk? Because it sure looked like a yell to me.

It most certainly was not a scream. Black Bolt's screams have been able to tear the very fabric of the universe. Also, in the next panel, the hulk explixitly says that he didn't come to hear a whisper, but rather, wanted to hear BB scream.

Also, atmosphere on the moon being thinner etc etc.....

I'm amused that BB comes charging out with his voice at full power, especially as the whole point of the character is his self control and his fear of cutting loose...

Whereas Hal wouldn't be dropping Krona Busters left and right, or opening portals to BFR Bolt...

Originally posted by Odekahn
I talk how I talk and I don't change.

That breaches at least two of the basic rules to engage in any useful conversation, people who actually don't change are incapable of learning from argumentation which makes discussion an entirely pointless paradigma.

Not sure how that is a sensible way to approach a discussion forum 👆

Hal has this

Originally posted by Bentley
That breaches at least two of the basic rules to engage in any useful conversation, people who actually don't change are incapable of learning from argumentation which makes discussion an entirely pointless paradigma.

Not sure how that is a sensible way to approach a discussion forum 👆

This would be true if I never changed my OPINION. Which I do quite frequently. I said I don't change how I TALK. There's a difference.

I just meant how I say things is how I say things and I'm not going to fluff up how I say something just because I'm worried someone might be offended. And if someone is looking to be offended at something I said, after I already clarified what I meant, that's their problem.

Originally posted by Odekahn
No. I'm saying the forces within a black hole cannot stop Hal. What do you think the physics behind BB's scream is? Is it magic? Is it tangible? There's nothing about BB's voice that makes me think it dishes out anymore force than a black hole.
Considering 616 Terrax is durable enough to play hide and seek inside a black hole...

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Mind%20and%20Senses/DazzlerV1010-15.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/misc/DazzlerV1010-16.jpg

I'd like to think the black hole isn't the be all end all feat you think it is

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Considering 616 Terrax is durable enough to play hide and seek inside a black hole...

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Mind%20and%20Senses/DazzlerV1010-15.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/misc/DazzlerV1010-16.jpg

I'd like to think the black hole isn't the be all end all feat you think it is

That, or the fact that every character has high and low showings... including Black Bolt.

Originally posted by Odekahn
That, or the fact that every character has low showings... including Black Bolt.
Can you explain how what you said makes sense to what I said?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Can you explain how what you said makes sense to what I said?

Sorry, was texting it too quickly. I edited it. (At work so I'm trying to multitask lol)

I meant high and low showings**

Slight edge to Hal...

Originally posted by Odekahn
Sorry, was texting it too quickly. I edited it. (At work so I'm trying to multitask lol)

I meant high and low showings**

So... I'll try to make sense of it.

What you're saying is Terrax surviving a black hole is a high showing, while still maintaining that Hal's feat is totally cool (besides the many people pointing out lesser people breaking his shield), and thus Black Bolt can't output more than a black hole? Because black holes are so impressive in comics...

Let's go about this another way and touch on something I said earlier.

Graviton has been a manifestation of a pocket universe... like a lesser Eternity:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelTwo-In-OneAnnual04-14.jpg

Here he throws miniature black holes at Thing that Black Bolt destroys:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelTwo-In-OneAnnual04-17.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelTwo-In-OneAnnual04-19.jpg

And here he creates anti-matter, creates a shield that holds the anti-matter, and has Thing throw it at Graviton that would have destroyed him had Black Bolt not knocked it into space:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelTwo-In-OneAnnual04-27.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelTwo-In-OneAnnual04-29.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelTwo-In-OneAnnual04-32.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelTwo-In-OneAnnual04-33.jpg

Black Bolt can output more than a black hole to say the least. All this was accomplished without his voice

Originally posted by Bentley
That breaches at least two of the basic rules to engage in any useful conversation, people who actually don't change are incapable of learning from argumentation which makes discussion an entirely pointless paradigma.

Not sure how that is a sensible way to approach a discussion forum 👆

👆

Originally posted by Bentley
That breaches at least two of the basic rules to engage in any useful conversation, people who actually don't change are incapable of learning from argumentation which makes discussion an entirely pointless paradigma.

Not sure how that is a sensible way to approach a discussion forum 👆

So true

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So... I'll try to make sense of it.

What you're saying is Terrax surviving a black hole is a high showing, while still maintaining that Hal's feat is totally cool (besides the many people pointing out lesser people breaking his shield), and thus Black Bolt can't output more than a black hole? Because black holes are so impressive in comics...

Let's go about this another way and touch on something I said earlier.

Graviton has been a manifestation of a pocket universe... like a lesser Eternity:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelTwo-In-OneAnnual04-14.jpg

Here he throws miniature black holes at Thing that Black Bolt destroys:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelTwo-In-OneAnnual04-17.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelTwo-In-OneAnnual04-19.jpg

And here he creates anti-matter, creates a shield that holds the anti-matter, and has Thing throw it at Graviton that would have destroyed him had Black Bolt not knocked it into space:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelTwo-In-OneAnnual04-27.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelTwo-In-OneAnnual04-29.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelTwo-In-OneAnnual04-32.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelTwo-In-OneAnnual04-33.jpg

Black Bolt can output more than a black hole to say the least. All this was accomplished without his voice

Meh. You get the general idea of what I was saying. I don't think those tiny (sad excuses for) black holes are equivalent to a giant-center of a galaxy-black hole in space. However, you did point out that they (like everything else in comics) are relative in power output. That makes sense and is a fair point. It makes it difficult to discern just how big of a feat it really is, when in reality, a teaspoon sized black hole would destroy the planet. With that taken into consideration, I will concede in using that as a grounds of argument in this debate.

Originally posted by Supermex
So true

It is true. Only it has absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about.

I feel its a competitive match.

But the notion that Black Bolt would come out screaming out the gates, is childish thinking. Thats not how Black Bolt roles yo! By the same token, Hal pulls out a Krona Killing, which is out of character for Hal.

Originally posted by "Id"
I feel its a competitive match.

But the notion that Black Bolt would come out screaming out the gates, is childish thinking. Thats not how Black Bolt roles yo! By the same token, Hal pulls out a Krona Killing, which is out of character for Hal.

Which in reality the fight would be somewhere in the middle. Black Bolt would increase his power and Hal would adjust accordingly. Fact is, Hal has a power set that is perfect for taking out someone like BB.