That's the vs I wanted to see sooo often.
But that is not the best idea I have.
Like Bring Here A Couple of Big Khorne Favored Bloodthristers and see who of those two blonde divas is faster in dispatching one. Straight up fight is a waste of Primarch/demon/human/whatever resources.
Oh. And Sanguinius is maybe third or second best Primarch in HTH. What weaponry is permitted here, cause Sanguinius may carry around a vortex grenade or two if that's the case?
Or is it "Rebellion and guns vs a sword of the Angel of Emperor"?
Yamato works on the same principle as Yiriel's spear or Dorn's artifact Vortex spear but it's not "standard gear" so it's off picture here.
Let's presume "Standard gear for both", DMC2 Dante incarnation with "composite" feats.
The game breaker here is that DMC2 incarnation showed to be able to freeze single objects in time (Time Heart) as opposed to DMC3/DMC1 slowing time down in the particular area.
That would be akin to Necron stasis fields, and I'm afraid Sanguinius never faced that in his career).
Dante also has the advantage of being smaller and more agile combatant (unless he goes Majin where he becomes the same height or taller than Sanguinius) and in relatively limited space of Battle Barge bridge this is a great advantage.
Rebellion can cut through regenerating concrete like paper:
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But will it be enough to cut through Warhammer-grade adamantium? That's doubtful.
And I still demand this vs be turned into Bloodthrister punching/slicing contest with Eldar farseer porn as a prize to the contestants?
See my doubts about cutting Artificier armour also. Also - see retarded durability feats of Konrad Curze - who is among physically weakest ones (while Sanguinius is one of physically strongest).
I don't see "standard equipment on standard equipment" Dante's chances as particularly good. Rebellion is just another fancy Force Sword here. Guns? The Primarchs LOL at point blank meltas to head.
Also - see what Fulgrim did to the Avatar, then replicate on smaller more agile target. Sanguinius has more chances simply because I don't see how Dante's standard equipment does anything to his adamantium armor.
Konrad Curze is actually pretty physically strong.
In a brawl, he overpowered Lion El'Jonson and was threatening to strangle him. He also overpowers Corax in a direct contest of strength, who had just overpowered and dominated Lorgar in combat. He of course also nearly murdered Dorn with his bare hands. He seems to have lunatic strength. He's probably not on the level of the larger and more physically powerful Primarchs, like Vulkan, Ferrus Manus, Magnus, Leman Russ, or Angron, but he's no weakling.
Compounding the sheer physical advantage Sanguinius has is a not insubstantial healing factor. Fulgrim once had his bare foot melted to the bone, and it healed in a few moments good as new. Fulgrim also ripped his own dick off. This is relevant.
Sanguinius also appears to be the third or fourth mightiest psyker among the Primarchs, under Magnus, Lorgar, and arguably Fulgrim after his fall. Along with his precognitive dreams, he of course can power a force sword, but more than that demonstrated enough psychic strength to slow a massive, like 11 kilometer starship and hold it together when it plummeted through the atmosphere of a world and crash landed. It was intact enough to be repaired later. He can also amplify his prowess in combat in martial combat, shining with a golden light that enhances all of his physical abilities (He put this power to great use against Ka'Bhanda and Kyriss, impaling the latter with a sword throw, and wrapping the former up with its own whip before breaking its wing and throwing it through a portal into the Warp).
That's why I think that combat thread is slightly spitey (even if Time Heart works, Dante still has to cut through Primarch's armor which I don't view as easy) and thus the Bloodthrister punching contest is the best and funniest way to kill time for noble warriors.
Sanguinius was always regarded to be second or third best Primarch in combat. By ANYONE of his brothers.
Konrad is relatively impressive ("weakling" by Primarch standards, called that by Vulcan who said that he and many others jobbed to Konrad in sparrings so that not to make him even more emo), and speakin' of weaklings... Personally I consider Lorgar to be one of the weakest ones (pre-Heresy stats, no Daemon-Princehood and other amps).
At first I thought it was this Dante.
Anyway, Sangiunius stomps.
The durability of Primarchs is in a bit of a nebulous realm to me. Sure, Mistah Kurtz demonstrated insane durability even as a baby, but he was later decapitated by a mere human. Sanguinius was threatened by mere humans as a baby, Angron was on the verge of being killed by humans when he was saved by the Emperor. The token black Primarch's life was seriously threatened by the prospect of falling into a volcano.
There are probably more examples, but these are from the top of my head.
Originally posted by ArtificialGloryM Shen had a C'tan phase blade.
The durability of Primarchs is in a bit of a nebulous realm to me. Sure, Mistah Kurtz demonstrated insane durability even as a baby, but he was later decapitated by a mere human. Sanguinius was threatened by mere humans as a baby, Angron was on the verge of being killed by humans when he was saved by the Emperor. The token black Primarch's life was seriously threatened by the prospect of falling into a volcano.There are probably more examples, but these are from the top of my head.
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Said human was an assassin wielding a C'Tan phase blade, which ignores durability and defenses 👆Angron's army was being starved from constant warfare, Vulkan was younger and weakened at the time, plus volcanic eruptions are typically several hundred megatons anyways
Oh, right. Missed that.
So? Most armies suffer attrition, and he's a goddamn Primarch.
Vulcan was weakened by hanging over a ledge for a couple of hours while holding on to a huge lizard-creature. Impressive, but not terribly so. Also, I don't remember anything about the volcano threatening to erupt. Vulcan merely falling into it would likely have been fatal.
EDIT: Apparently Angron tried to escape quite a few times from his masters, but was always re-captured like a dog.
As my boyfriend said "Primarchs' durability feats are almost as plot-dependent as Orks' ones, they go from being threatened by normal humans with human weaponry to ripping Bloodthristers in halves on the whim" but "since the fight is on Battle Barge Sanguinius gains +100500 to his Pathos Aura and incinerates Dante with it merely by being a friggin' Primarch on a friggin' Battle Barge since that's how Warhammer works".
