Originally posted by KentoThink about this...
I was just using the last known power levels. Even at them, Vegeto's power would be through the roof. But then again, that absurdity is why Akira gave up power levels.
Both Akira and V-Jump made explicit comments that Bills is the most powerful being ever seen in Z, which implies that he is more powerful than Vegeto was(which makes sense considering the Z fighters didn't even consider fusion an option against Bills.) So IF the Potara multiplier mentioned in the Daizenshuu is accurate, then Vegeto's theoretical PL as a SSJ2 would be about 800 quadrillion, as I explained before. So let's just put Bills' theoretical PL at 801 quadrillion.
Based on canon SSJ multipliers+Bills' assessment that base Goku<Frieza, we know Goku's SSJ3 PL could not have been more than 48 billion. So even if he was still 800x less powerful than Bills in the wake of his SSJG amp(the gap wasn't that vast, mind you), his PL would have still been boosted to 1 quadrillion. This equates to an increase of 2,083,233.3%! Damn.
Just theorizing, is all. /speculation. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007Akira tends to forget people he makes though. So that I take with a grain of salt. Also Vegeta wouldn't have fused. And there is Gokou's speech in Buu saga about wanting to use his own power and not fuse again. I don't think fusion would have ever crossed his mind simply because of their pride, and Gokou's love of a challenge. I don't think Gogeta would ever actually happen simply because no way Vegeta would do that dance.
Think about this...Both Akira and V-Jump made explicit comments that Bills is the most powerful being ever seen in Z, which implies that he is more powerful than Vegeto was(which makes sense considering the Z fighters didn't even consider fusion an option against Bills.) So IF the Potara multiplier mentioned in the Daizenshuu is accurate, then Vegeto's theoretical PL as a SSJ2 would be about 800 quadrillion, as I explained before. So let's just put Bills' theoretical PL at 801 quadrillion.
Based on canon SSJ multipliers+Bills' assessment that base Goku<Frieza, we know Goku's SSJ3 PL could not have been more than 48 billion. So even if he was still 800x less powerful than Bills in the wake of his SSJG amp(the gap wasn't that vast, mind you), his PL would have still been boosted to 1 quadrillion. This equates to an increase of [b]2,083,233.3%
! Damn.Just theorizing, is all. /speculation. 🙂 [/B]
Also SSJG amp being THAT big of an amp just, is even more absurd than potara fusion amp.
Originally posted by KentoLol. I know, I know... Just speculating. 😄
Akira tends to forget people he makes though. So that I take with a grain of salt. Also Vegeta wouldn't have fused. And there is Gokou's speech in Buu saga about wanting to use his own power and not fuse again. I don't think fusion would have ever crossed his mind simply because of their pride, and Gokou's love of a challenge. I don't think Gogeta would ever actually happen simply because no way Vegeta would do that dance.Also SSJG amp being THAT big of an amp just, is even more absurd than potara fusion amp.
I do believe Bills>Vegeto, though.
If Potara fusion is actually adding the powers together not multiplying, I think Bills could win quite easily. I see SSJG amp being more than double Vegeta's power level. Because Gokou would have to lower his power to Vegetas. That's another reason I don't think fusion dance fusing would have been a valid attempt. Fusion dance really isn't that powerful if you think of it....=/ 30 minute time limit and only a power up that's the same as ssj to ssj2.
@ ShadeSlayer: Your favorite character can't ALWAYS win. Goku has lost MANY times before, to Tien, Vegeta, Buu, Yamcha and many others. You need to watch the series "Attack on Titan". It is the best anime of all time, no question. It's not a fighting show, but it has the best story, the most readability, and is probably going to be the new king of anime once the big three end. Anyway, the main characters constantly die, and it's still the perfect anime/manga. Watch out though, new chapters only come out once a month.