TUF Luke vs. Marka Ragnos, Exar Kun and Naga Sadow.

To be fair, she did create Force phantoms before that that exhausted her.

True, but she had quite a long conversation with Jacen after that in which to recover.

To be fair x2, Lumiya has defeated ROTJ-Luke before, could create Force Phantoms in the first place, and Zekk and Jaina were positive that they were no match for her. Not to mention she has held her own against Luke more than once during NJO. She's good.

Originally posted by Nephthys
She was also being overpowered by a random Jedi Knight in Betrayal. 😬

But high lightsaber skill is not dependent on high force skill.

Raskta Tsu was able to take on Bane in sabers on good terms without having force power to speak of.

Being weaker in the force doesn't mean you can't be very high tier in sabers.

Freahers Freahserr! ::😄

I think NJO authors have distorted the combat prowess of a Jedi for people to think Luke or most Jedi/Sith for that matter can hope to defeat 3 powerhouse Sith at the same time. Even proponents of destruction like Nihilus and Palpatine would be taken down by such a trio.

"...it would be better to retreat..." - Dooku to Grievous comes to mind here. NJO authors need a refresher on the force, anyone can beat anyone, sure, but the Force is universal.

Even a weak knee Jedi with enough skill and knowledge of the force can be a threat to a powerhouse. Vader learnt that the hard way many times.

I did not see this thread. This is ridiculous. You've got Marka "I'm unchallenged for a century, surrounded by a planet full of Sith and I'm a badass" Ragnos, Naga "I make Force toys that make neophytes like Kun into Force Gods; oh and I'm wearing one" Sadow, and Exar "I take Sadow's amulet and became exponentially more powerful than any Force user in my entire era" Kun against Luke Skywalker. This is not a linear battle here, but the amount of Force power brought to bear on Luke Skywalker would be immense. Keep in mind Marka Ragnos made JA Luke crap his pants in spirit form; in the flesh, combined with Exar Kun who was likewise a threat to Luke and Sadow sporting the same amulets is overkill.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I did not see this thread. This is ridiculous.

I’m imagining your expression as we speak:

Chubby cheeks inflamed, pedophile-mustache twisted, saliva and phlegm sliding down your chin, sinister, beady eyes narrowed in outrage…

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
You've got Marka "I'm unchallenged for a century, surrounded by a planet full of Sith and I'm a badass" Ragnos, Naga "I make Force toys that make neophytes like Kun into Force Gods; oh and I'm wearing one" Sadow, and Exar "I take Sadow's amulet and became exponentially more powerful than any Force user in my entire era" Kun against Luke Skywalker. This is not a linear battle here, but the amount of Force power brought to bear on Luke Skywalker would be immense. Keep in mind Marka Ragnos made JA Luke crap his pants in spirit form; in the flesh, combined with Exar Kun who was likewise a threat to Luke and Sadow sporting the same amulets is overkill.

Wow, I find myself persuaded by your completely objective and unbiased assessment of these characters!

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Luke one-shots.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Luke. It's a far greater advantage to have one being of significant power (abeloth, for example) against 3 beings of lesser power (note, not saying ancient sith are even relatively close to abeloth in power, just an analogy). Luke could, say, TK them all, or blitz one of em with blinding speed, among the top in the whole mythos. Or he could just legitimately outduel all of them, or even subdue them with lightning. And then there's the infamous fold space lightsaber into your heart.

Holy shit this guy is a 10/10 dumbass 🙂🙂🙂

Nah I think he's right.