Who is the better Martial Arts trainer?

Started by ODG2 pages

Originally posted by Uriel005
Can't believe Stick is getting passed over here....
I voted for him at least. sneer

I think I'd go Stick as well. Daredevil was pretty high level from pretty early in his career.

Splinter gets props for training a fighting unit more-so than individuals.

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Hm, one matter I'm thinking of is a lot of Bruce's students had co-trainers. Tim trained some under Shiva which marked a major milestone for him as a martial artist (though granted Bruce was more important). Steph under Cass (heck.. come to think of it, didn't Stephanie have more time under Cass than under Bruce? The time training under Bruce was more intense and constant, but still, she had a foundation before then).

Damian, of course, had training under Talia and then Dick before Bruce started with him.

^ I was under the impression that Dick tried to rein in Damian's skills, rather than add to them. Damian was taught to kill and use lethal force, after all. I do recall Damian learning certain skills from Bruce, like the pressure point to forehead move, but it was much the same with him. Bruce didn't seem to really add too much that already wasn't there. He was just trying to temper it.

Wasn't Daredevil also trained by Izo?

One very good one is, of course, David Cain.

His students are Cass, Mad Dog Cain (who's a bit below Cass but still well outmatched League known assassins like Shrike, and his fight with Cass was basically a draw), and Bruce Wayne

Originally posted by ODG
^ I was under the impression that Dick tried to rein in Damian's skills, rather than add to them. Damian was taught to kill and use lethal force, after all.

That's not 'reining in,' that's adding more options, less lethal ones but still expanding his skill set.

I do recall Damian learning certain skills from Bruce, like the pressure point to forehead move, but it was much the same with him. Bruce didn't seem to really add too much that already wasn't there. He was just trying to temper it.

Yea.

my Dude Cap for me and in a DC/Marvel Crossover they Stalemated Each other even with Batmans "127 styles of Martial Arts"

Originally posted by Q99
That's not 'reining in,' that's adding more options, less lethal ones but still expanding his skill set.
If you have proof Dick taught him new moves to replace his lethal moves, by all means, post it. I recall him lecturing him on not hitting as hard. Not hitting in a different way. I haven't read their time together as a duo in a while, but I remember no such thing.

Stick. Matt own

I'd say Stick or Splinter.

Added bonus to Splinter for the manner by which he actually learned his martial skills, as a rat inexplicably mimicking the moves of his owner, and was able to grasp those abilities with such accuracy and aptitude that when he was later mutated into a humanoid rat he was able to train 4 mutate turtles to become master martial artists as well, to a level where they win inter-dimensional MMA tournaments.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Bucky could beat any individual member of the Bat-Family.

I think that Nightwing would be a good matchup.