Originally posted by quanchi112In Darkseid's defense, those stairs do look like they have some wear on them and that room was still moderately dark. Falling down a pair of stairs while depowered is still vastly less humiliating than being unable to stand on your own two feet while extremely amped by a cosmic artifact of power.
It is humiliating all the same. Basically, you are saying without his powers he can't even handle a few stairs.
Originally posted by BouboumasterHer power isn't related to squirrels thats the cover up. Her real power is I Win You Lose Reality Warp to the level of God.
It's Squirrel Girl.She would shit on Parralax and then use her squirrel power to beat the ever loving **** out of Superman.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Ambush Bug ambushes Squirrel Girl to death.
Originally posted by InhumanI'm pretty certain that that story isn't canon and that darkseid only saw the one thug and thus was unprepared to defend himself from an attack from behind.
Whats funny is that in slugfest/H2H threads people say DS is a skilled in H2H combat.Even without powers I can see Iron fist, Cap, Wonder woman, etc , take out a couple of teenage thugs.
Originally posted by Uriel005
tell that to the 10,001 reality warpers that have been popping up in marvels mainstream cast.... Illiyana, Jamie Braddock, Legion, Franklin, Jim Jaspers, Absolom Mercator, the various high end psionics, phoenix 5, Jean Grey before P-force got kaboom'd, PIS cannons in the form of scientists i.e. Reed Richards, Pym. The casual use of reality warp gods Odin, Thor when he's not being an idiot, Loki shennanigans. A lot of these are relatively mainstreamed and regularly occurring characters compared to DC. Off the top of my head the only major mainstream universal currently active and having an effect would be Pandora. New Gods haven't done much besides Darkseid IMO, Swamp Thing in his hey day I guess as was DOV Marvel but for the most part ridiculous overpowerment is short time deal rather than an inherent power set. I guess old Kent Nelson could apply as an active player but for the most part it comes down to application of particular powersets. Given these tend to completely blow a lot of Marvel out of the water. The superman casually benching the planet for 5 days in a dark room with only a single bead of sweat to show for it comes to mind.... but his powerset generally isn't "reality's for bitches" type of deal. I mean Illyana Rasputin casually punked the Juggernaut enchant off of her brother on a whim let alone what the other warpers have been up to...TLDR Marvel has way to many plot device Reality Warps/Science might as well be magic characters relative to DC which is far more reliant on a more limited power set.
Dude, do you have any idea how many Universal/ multiversal level characters DC has. This is only part of the list
Abaddon Fallen angel who once guarded hell helped Etrigan overthrow the first triumverate of hell
Abnegazar one of the deamons three improsned by the timeless ones
Agony hell's tormentors
Alex Luthor energy and dimesional manipulator Multiversal level threat
Amenadiel member of the Host
Amethyst Lord of Order
Amon Ra Lord of Order
Anit-matter man universal threat from the anti matter univers of Quard
Anti-fate antithisis of Dr Fate (Classic)
Anti-life entitiy embodiment of the anti-life equation
Appa Ali Apsa Former Guadian driven mad by linliness. Took the combinedmight of all the Guardians and GL's to beat him
Arion powerful mage who has walked the earth for 5000 yrs plus
Asmodel former member of the host who rebelled and Joined Neron
Asteroth Destroyer of destroyers
Aurakles cosmic entity who reaches through time space and dimensions
Auron X'Hal's bearer of death
Azmodus One of the Spectre's greates foes (amalgam of his former host)
Bast once powerul god who's power is decreasing
Bat-Mite 6 th dimensional imp
Beelzebub one of the triumverate of hell
Belial Father of Etrigan and Merlin
Black Flash Dark aspect of the speed force to breang death to speedsters
Black Racer DC's grim reaper
Blithe Angel of light
Carnivore First Vampire, former member of heaven
Chaon Lord of Chaos
Controllers one of the imortal races of Maltus
Darkseid Nuff said
Death Member of the endless
Decreator Evil entity that cults have tried to summon to unmake everything
Deedra Lord of Order
Deimos immortal wizard of Skartais
Delirium Member of the endless
Desire Member of the endless
Despair Member of the endless
Destiny Member of the endless
Destruction Member of the endless
Djinn 6 th dimensional imp
Dream Member of the endless
Duma Angel of scilence who ruled hell after Lucifer
Eclipso Former wrath of the presence (prior to Spectre)
Ecstacy hell's tormentors
first of fallen Omnipotent revealed to be the presence's own consience given form when he wanted to argue with it
flaw Lord of Chaos
Garamas Titan
Garn Daanuth Arion's evil brother
Gemimn Lord of Order
Ghast one of the demons three improsned by the timeless ones
Gog God of the Third world Cuurently imbedded in the Source wall
Goth demon who corrupts children
Gray Man Servant of order who farms the dreams of mortals- the power souce of the LOO
Great evel beast Omnipotent = to the presence in power. When the wto touch hands they form yin and yang
Guardians immortal keepers of order
Gyges Titan
H'ronmeer Martian God of death
Highfather leader of New genisis his staff is directly linked to the source wall.
Horus Lord of Order
Hourman III Time manipulator
Huitzilopocthli Myan god
Iblis demon destroyer
ID, 6th dimensional Imp
Imperiex Prime Galactus level being
Infinite Man Time manipulator
Ion sentient embdiment of will power
Izanami ancient god of Japan
Jheryl Lord of Order
Kancer
Kid Eternity
Kiderkin Lord of Order
King of Tears lord of the Suptle realms even the Spectre can't kill him
Kismet DC equivilent of Eternity
Koth dimensional threat faced by Doctor Occult
Krona Immortal Mutusian (Guardians, Controller, Zamarons) who released evil on the universe
Kulak Enemy of Spectre (who has defeated Spectre more than once)
Lilith Mother of atrocities
Lkz 5th Dimensional Imp
Lord Satanus Son of Shazam
Lucifer omnipotetent multiple appearances prior to getting his own title
Mageddon Sun/ planet galaxy destroyer. Capable of making all near it feel hate and despair
Malferrazae
Mallo Keeper of the Cocmic Balance, pre-Crisis multiverse being
Mammon one of Hell's wealthiest and most powerful demons
Mantis Second most powerful of Apokolips
Materna Minxx, cosmic nanny of Helen Jordan from The Spectre
Mordru Lord of Chaos
mr Keeper Lord of Chaos
Mr Mxlplk 5th Dimensional Imp
Nabu Lord of Order
Naiads elemental
Nameless One Former ruler of the Arkana realm
Nebiros Supremely powerful in the nether worlds. Took the combined might of all earth's ancient mystics to banish him
Nebula Man Sentient universe
Nekron, Get's the strength and power of all lives he tales
Neron DC = to mephisto
Merlin Brother of Etrigan
Obatala African God- Source of the power of a few Flobal Guardians
Onimar Sin Thanagarian God with control over the four forces
Orpheus I Son of Dream and Calliope
Osiris Lord of Chaos
Osiris Lord of Order
Overmaster One of their many Galactus rip offs
Parallax embodiment of pure fear
Parliament of Trees Earth elementals
Phantom Stranger Aspect of the Hope of God/ Presence
Promethean Giants proto beings that have breached the source wall
Quetzalcoatl Aztec God
Ra featured in The Sandman
Raan Va Dath, mother serpent of Etrigan, featured in The Demon
Rama Kushna, death goddess, creator of Deadman, featured in Strange Adventures
rath one of the deamons three improsned by the timeless ones
Remiel, an angel featured in The Sandman and Lucifer
Rott, demon who mind controlled Martian Manhunter into becoming Bloodwynd
S'ivaa the Destroyer Shadow Elemental
Sandalphon fallen angel who sided with Lucifer
Sandman (fifth and sixth) Vertigo's greatest character
Seviram demon in hell
Shazam Lord of Order
Shivering Jemmy Lord of Chaos
sister Sentry Lord of Order
Solaris the Tyrant Sun AI sun took the combined JLA and Justice Legion A to contain
Spectre aspect of the wrath of God/ Presence
Stigmonus Monsieur entity that thrives on despair, enemy of Spectre
Sun-Eater universal therat
Superboy-Prime
T'Charr Lord of Chaos
Takion Avitar of the light side of the source
Telephone Avatar entity that possessed telephone system and enslaved the dead
Terrataya Lord of Chaos
Tezcatlipoca Lord of Chaos
the child Lord of Chaos
The Presence DC's = TOAA
The Seven the group of abstracts that Dr Occult draws his power from
The Word Spectre's older more powerful brother
Thunderbolt I 5th Dimensional Imp
Time Trapper time manipulator universal threat
Totac / Totec Lord of Chaos
Trigon the Terrible lord of evil of another dimension
Typhon Lord of Chaos
Ultimator personification of the 10th dimension (power to make Mxlplk look weak
Vandaemeon Lord of Chaos
Vext patron deity of misfortune
Vulcan elder god
X'Hal Living Goddes of the Okarrans
Yama-No-Kami
YggDrasil the earth Elemental
Ynar Lord of Order
Zamarons one of the imortal races of Maltus
Zor Enemy of Spectre. The first 5 times they faced Spec' needed to ask the presence for greater power to match him
Seriously, the list of cosmic beings could go on forever, anyway this is directed at Beatboks:
Presence isn't TOAA's equal. The closest to TOAA in DC would be Grant Morrison as shown at the end of his animal man run.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it is not canon.The Darkseid scan if from the older universe pre Flashpoint. 😉
Right. Go ahead and provide evidence that says spidey super stories #39 is non canon.
The Darkseid scan is from superpowers v3 #3, all super powers volumes are non canon, not to mention that Darkseid's powers were stolen:
http://i.imgur.com/gLKloI0.jpg?1
Darkseid even says so in the same page that he got owned, just that the scan provider posted a cropped image of the scan.
that is however completely irrelevant since it's non canon anyways, so im afraid you'll have to find other ways to try and low ball Darkseid.
In the staircase scenario, Darkseid was depowered as well, btw.
Originally posted by beatboksand how many of these have regular runs or are included in company events with any regularity
Dude, do you have any idea how many Universal/ multiversal level characters DC has. This is only part of the listAbaddon Fallen angel who once guarded hell helped Etrigan overthrow the first triumverate of hell
Abnegazar one of the deamons three improsned by the timeless ones
Agony hell's tormentors
Alex Luthor energy and dimesional manipulator Multiversal level threat
Amenadiel member of the Host
Amethyst Lord of Order
Amon Ra Lord of Order
Anit-matter man universal threat from the anti matter univers of Quard
Anti-fate antithisis of Dr Fate (Classic)
Anti-life entitiy embodiment of the anti-life equation
Appa Ali Apsa Former Guadian driven mad by linliness. Took the combinedmight of all the Guardians and GL's to beat him
Arion powerful mage who has walked the earth for 5000 yrs plus
Asmodel former member of the host who rebelled and Joined Neron
Asteroth Destroyer of destroyers
Aurakles cosmic entity who reaches through time space and dimensions
Auron X'Hal's bearer of death
Azmodus One of the Spectre's greates foes (amalgam of his former host)
Bast once powerul god who's power is decreasing
Bat-Mite 6 th dimensional imp
Beelzebub one of the triumverate of hell
Belial Father of Etrigan and Merlin
Black Flash Dark aspect of the speed force to breang death to speedsters
Black Racer DC's grim reaper
Blithe Angel of light
Carnivore First Vampire, former member of heaven
Chaon Lord of Chaos
Controllers one of the imortal races of Maltus
Darkseid Nuff said
Death Member of the endless
Decreator Evil entity that cults have tried to summon to unmake everything
Deedra Lord of Order
Deimos immortal wizard of Skartais
Delirium Member of the endless
Desire Member of the endless
Despair Member of the endless
Destiny Member of the endless
Destruction Member of the endless
Djinn 6 th dimensional imp
Dream Member of the endless
Duma Angel of scilence who ruled hell after Lucifer
Eclipso Former wrath of the presence (prior to Spectre)
Ecstacy hell's tormentors
first of fallen Omnipotent revealed to be the presence's own consience given form when he wanted to argue with it
flaw Lord of Chaos
Garamas Titan
Garn Daanuth Arion's evil brother
Gemimn Lord of Order
Ghast one of the demons three improsned by the timeless ones
Gog God of the Third world Cuurently imbedded in the Source wall
Goth demon who corrupts children
Gray Man Servant of order who farms the dreams of mortals- the power souce of the LOO
Great evel beast Omnipotent = to the presence in power. When the wto touch hands they form yin and yang
Guardians immortal keepers of order
Gyges Titan
H'ronmeer Martian God of death
Highfather leader of New genisis his staff is directly linked to the source wall.
Horus Lord of Order
Hourman III Time manipulator
Huitzilopocthli Myan god
Iblis demon destroyer
ID, 6th dimensional Imp
Imperiex Prime Galactus level being
Infinite Man Time manipulator
Ion sentient embdiment of will power
Izanami ancient god of Japan
Jheryl Lord of Order
Kancer
Kid Eternity
Kiderkin Lord of Order
King of Tears lord of the Suptle realms even the Spectre can't kill him
Kismet DC equivilent of Eternity
Koth dimensional threat faced by Doctor Occult
Krona Immortal Mutusian (Guardians, Controller, Zamarons) who released evil on the universe
Kulak Enemy of Spectre (who has defeated Spectre more than once)
Lilith Mother of atrocities
Lkz 5th Dimensional Imp
Lord Satanus Son of Shazam
Lucifer omnipotetent multiple appearances prior to getting his own title
Mageddon Sun/ planet galaxy destroyer. Capable of making all near it feel hate and despair
Malferrazae
Mallo Keeper of the Cocmic Balance, pre-Crisis multiverse being
Mammon one of Hell's wealthiest and most powerful demons
Mantis Second most powerful of Apokolips
Materna Minxx, cosmic nanny of Helen Jordan from The Spectre
Mordru Lord of Chaos
mr Keeper Lord of Chaos
Mr Mxlplk 5th Dimensional Imp
Nabu Lord of Order
Naiads elemental
Nameless One Former ruler of the Arkana realm
Nebiros Supremely powerful in the nether worlds. Took the combined might of all earth's ancient mystics to banish him
Nebula Man Sentient universe
Nekron, Get's the strength and power of all lives he tales
Neron DC = to mephisto
Merlin Brother of Etrigan
Obatala African God- Source of the power of a few Flobal Guardians
Onimar Sin Thanagarian God with control over the four forces
Orpheus I Son of Dream and Calliope
Osiris Lord of Chaos
Osiris Lord of Order
Overmaster One of their many Galactus rip offs
Parallax embodiment of pure fear
Parliament of Trees Earth elementals
Phantom Stranger Aspect of the Hope of God/ Presence
Promethean Giants proto beings that have breached the source wall
Quetzalcoatl Aztec God
Ra featured in The Sandman
Raan Va Dath, mother serpent of Etrigan, featured in The Demon
Rama Kushna, death goddess, creator of Deadman, featured in Strange Adventures
rath one of the deamons three improsned by the timeless ones
Remiel, an angel featured in The Sandman and Lucifer
Rott, demon who mind controlled Martian Manhunter into becoming Bloodwynd
S'ivaa the Destroyer Shadow Elemental
Sandalphon fallen angel who sided with Lucifer
Sandman (fifth and sixth) Vertigo's greatest character
Seviram demon in hell
Shazam Lord of Order
Shivering Jemmy Lord of Chaos
sister Sentry Lord of Order
Solaris the Tyrant Sun AI sun took the combined JLA and Justice Legion A to contain
Spectre aspect of the wrath of God/ Presence
Stigmonus Monsieur entity that thrives on despair, enemy of Spectre
Sun-Eater universal therat
Superboy-Prime
T'Charr Lord of Chaos
Takion Avitar of the light side of the source
Telephone Avatar entity that possessed telephone system and enslaved the dead
Terrataya Lord of Chaos
Tezcatlipoca Lord of Chaos
the child Lord of Chaos
The Presence DC's = TOAA
The Seven the group of abstracts that Dr Occult draws his power from
The Word Spectre's older more powerful brother
Thunderbolt I 5th Dimensional Imp
Time Trapper time manipulator universal threat
Totac / Totec Lord of Chaos
Trigon the Terrible lord of evil of another dimension
Typhon Lord of Chaos
Ultimator personification of the 10th dimension (power to make Mxlplk look weak
Vandaemeon Lord of Chaos
Vext patron deity of misfortune
Vulcan elder god
X'Hal Living Goddes of the Okarrans
Yama-No-Kami
YggDrasil the earth Elemental
Ynar Lord of Order
Zamarons one of the imortal races of Maltus
Zor Enemy of Spectre. The first 5 times they faced Spec' needed to ask the presence for greater power to match him
Originally posted by Uriel005
and how many of these have regular runs or are included in company events.
Lucifer, Swamp Thing, Books of Magic, Death, Pandora, Phantom Stranger, Sandman, Etrigan, etc... All have had minis and entire runs. How many cosmic runs has Marvel had? I know Galactus had one a while ago. Any others?
