@Q99: Kinda kicks the the tier thing a bit. Now we have to get a ruler and measure each universe..
Originally posted by carver9
Again, Frieza shot lasers that was completely invisible to the necked eye
You're admitting that Frieza's beams, while faster than their eyes could follow, were still visible given the chance. AKA Goku.
Major difference is that Yuki is stating that the laser fired is invisible. Not "so fast our eyes cannot track it".. invisible. It also left that burn mark. IRL lasers are invisible and it has nothing to do with being faster than our eyes, they just are, and also would only burn the target (not blow it up etc). The laser Yuki talks about has two major properties of IRL lasers.
Originally posted by BloodRain
@Q99: Kinda kicks the the tier thing a bit. Now we have to get a ruler and measure each universe..This is where you slip up, Carv.
You're admitting that Frieza's beams, while faster than their eyes could follow, were still visible given the chance. AKA Goku.
Major difference is that Yuki is stating that the laser fired is invisible. Not "so fast our eyes cannot track it".. invisible. It also left that burn mark. IRL lasers are invisible and it has nothing to do with being faster than our eyes, they just are, and also would only burn the target (not blow it up etc). The laser Yuki talks about has two major properties of IRL lasers.
So you honestly believe that a human being unable to see the attack makes this ft better than the Z fighters not being able to see Frieza hand beam?
Just looked at the Video and its impressive but imo it pales in comparison to Frieza, since again, we have beings that actually have on panel showings of seeing fast objects.
Please tell me I dont have to post fts of kid Goku dodging lasers.
Originally posted by carver9
So you honestly believe that a human being unable to see the attack makes this ft better than the Z fighters not being able to see Frieza hand beam?
Originally posted by carver9
Just looked at the Video and its impressive but imo it pales in comparison to Frieza, since again, we have beings that actually have on panel showings of seeing fast objects.
This isn't about what looks faster, its about what it is.
Yuki, the data genius who in that scene alone can see its electromagnetic wavelength+radiation, states its a laser. It is also invisible in such conditions and only burns the target like a it would irl. All evidence points to it being an irl laser. Did you even read my post?
Originally posted by BloodRain
Several separate multiverses in mangas from the same creator all having her in it.
Until then, I am forced to believe that you're applying interdifferentiable mental gymnastics regarding the terms "universe" and "multiverse".
Originally posted by TheGodKillerThat's fair, and I can't really prove it. Going by word of mouth and all.
I'd like to see a reliable reference of there being separate entire multiverses in the Slayers manga.Until then, I am forced to believe that you're applying interdifferentiable mental gymnastics regarding the terms "universe" and "multiverse".
Originally posted by BloodRain
What is a god?
the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.
a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human
God is often conceived as the supreme being and principal object of faith.[1] In theism, God is the creator and sustainer of the universe. In deism, God is the creator (but not the sustainer) of the universe. In pantheism, God is the universe itself. Theologians have ascribed a variety of attributes to the many different conceptions of God. Common among these are omniscience (infinite knowledge), omnipotence (unlimited power), omnipresence (present everywhere), omnibenevolence (perfect goodness), divine simplicity, and eternal and necessary existence. Monotheism is the belief in the existence of one God or in the oneness of God. God has also been conceived as being incorporeal (immaterial), a personal being, the source of all moral obligation, and the "greatest conceivable existent".[1] Many notable medieval philosophers and modern philosophers have developed arguments for and against the existence of God.[2] tell that ***** to beat that 🤣
Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human
God is often conceived as the supreme being and principal object of faith.[1] In theism, God is the creator and sustainer of the universe. In deism, God is the creator (but not the sustainer) of the universe. In pantheism, God is the universe itself. Theologians have ascribed a variety of attributes to the many different conceptions of God. Common among these are omniscience (infinite knowledge), omnipotence (unlimited power), omnipresence (present everywhere), omnibenevolence (perfect goodness), divine simplicity, and eternal and necessary existence. Monotheism is the belief in the existence of one God or in the oneness of God. God has also been conceived as being incorporeal (immaterial), a personal being, the source of all moral obligation, and the "greatest conceivable existent".[1] Many notable medieval philosophers and modern philosophers have developed arguments for and against the existence of God.[2] tell that ***** to beat that 🤣
Now, finish the job and explain which godly traits Goku and Bills share with the info you provided. Make a key note on the Omni's and universal level power.
Now Haruhi, her true powers are on the universal creation level, able to bend it to her will as easy as you breath. She's closer to a real god than Goku or Bills by a wide margin.
In fact the info you posted supports her more than anything.
Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human
God is often conceived as the supreme being and principal object of faith.[1] In theism, God is the creator and sustainer of the universe. In deism, God is the creator (but not the sustainer) of the universe. In pantheism, God is the universe itself. Theologians have ascribed a variety of attributes to the many different conceptions of God. Common among these are omniscience (infinite knowledge), omnipotence (unlimited power), omnipresence (present everywhere), omnibenevolence (perfect goodness), divine simplicity, and eternal and necessary existence. Monotheism is the belief in the existence of one God or in the oneness of God. God has also been conceived as being incorporeal (immaterial), a personal being, the source of all moral obligation, and the "greatest conceivable existent".[1] Many notable medieval philosophers and modern philosophers have developed arguments for and against the existence of God.[2] tell that ***** to beat that 🤣
Not to mention that this particular definition of the term "god" is far more applicable to characters like Haruhi or the Lord of Nightmares than someone like Goku or Bills.
Also, let me note that 'supreme being' only applies inside one's own universe. It means they're the strongest, but they still have to follow the same rules of evidence, feats, as everything else.
Some creator gods are way more powerful than others. A lot only create a single planet and then only have semi-limited control (like, if there's an evil force that rises, they have to rely on empowering champions because their power would be too much and blow stuff up or what have you. Many don't have time travel. And so on).
The Choushin from Tenchi... and btw, Choushin literally translates as something like 'Super-God,'... created countless universes as part of their experiments, and even the destruction of a universe is something easily fixed by them.
The Lord of Nightmares is an infinite sea of chaos with multiple universes extending from her body, and she can destroy and create them easily.
Originally posted by BloodRain
More impressive without the wiki copy.Now, finish the job and explain which godly traits Goku and Bills share with the info you provided. Make a key note on the Omni's and universal level power.
Now Haruhi, her true powers are on the universal creation level, able to bend it to her will as easy as you breath. She's closer to a real god than Goku or Bills by a wide margin.
In fact the info you posted supports her more than anything.
Seriously though, that post reeked of a higher level of retard than any of the bullsh1tty, trollish drivel that I have read on other forums in recent times. And I have read quite a lot of bullsh1tty and trollish drivel in recent times, so that is saying something.
Originally posted by Q99
Also, let me note that 'supreme being' only applies inside one's own universe. It means they're the strongest, but they still have to follow the same rules of evidence, feats, as everything else.Some creator gods are way more powerful than others. A lot only create a single planet and then only have semi-limited control (like, if there's an evil force that rises, they have to rely on empowering champions because their power would be too much and blow stuff up or what have you. Many don't have time travel. And so on).
The Choushin from Tenchi... and btw, Choushin literally translates as something like 'Super-God,'... created countless universes as part of their experiments, and even the destruction of a universe is something easily fixed by them.
The Lord of Nightmares is an infinite sea of chaos with multiple universes extending from her body, and she can destroy and create them easily.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Except for the fact that neither Bills nor Goku are Supreme Beings of the DBZverse. Not even close.
Also true!
Just saying, some people think some titles allow one to throw out feats and just declare it a win. So, Goku and Bills don't have those titles *nor* would they give a win even if they did!
Guess what, I just copied and pasted, I really don't give a **** about this forum lol, it was just to get people riled up, You guys take shit far to serious, and ok god killer, you are so smart man, Im sorry if I don't give a **** about any other anime other than dbz really, LON AND THAT ***** YOUR TALKING BOUT SOUND GAY AS ****KK, BUT IT WAS ALL IN GOOD FUN. 😐