Right. Which is why his bio specifically states that he's God (vertigo encyclopedia 2008)
http://i.imgur.com/j3ZSe8d.jpg?1
In the issue itself (hellblazer #128), he's been called God, as well as "the creator"
http://i.imgur.com/obwvgEJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NqxjnNS.jpg
The Presence is the God by which most writers go on, however there are a few exceptions, like the over monitor who has been also called God in an interview by grant morrison.
Thank you, i was just stating that the presence himself has stated that there are others above him, how many I dont know, but its bold for anybody to call him the creator god when he has been Stated to be below others, when Lucifer and Michael have been stated as to create the Multiverse in DC but yeah, in terms of implied power and status, its an uber feat, but when you look at the presence' feats he has next to none with nearly no appearances
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
Thank you, i was just stating that the presence himself has stated that there are others above him, how many I dont know, but its bold for anybody to call him the creator god when he has been Stated to be below others, when Lucifer and Michael have been stated as to create the Multiverse in DC but yeah, in terms of implied power and status, its an uber feat, but when you look at the presence' feats he has next to none with nearly no appearances
Those are the writers/creators he's referring to. Like TOOA.
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
Thank you, i was just stating that the presence himself has stated that there are others above him, how many I dont know, but its bold for anybody to call him the creator god when he has been Stated to be below others, when Lucifer and Michael have been stated as to create the Multiverse in DC but yeah, in terms of implied power and status, its an uber feat, but when you look at the presence' feats he has next to none with nearly no appearances
Not really, considering that the Presence has been referenced as being the creator more times than i could count and is shown doing so, on panel (im putting the Lucifer series aside, in which it was established that lucifer and michael were its creators) . Still, that's no surprise that we have a contradiction since there's also many more different creation stories which contradict each other.
A supreme being doesn't really has to have any feats, but if you want any; The Presence was literally holding all of creation with 1 hand, and was deciding whether to destroy it or preserve it through Elaine and Lilith.
When the spectre was shown the nature of God, he contained all the multiverse inside him, and was feeling every particle of it.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
In terms of intelligence though the Presence was able to completely outwit and outplan Lucifer.
Yep, funny enough, Lucifer's whole rebellion was revealed to be nothing more than one of Presence's preordained events in the scheme of things.
now that we're comparing Lucifer and John, that's what Mike Carey had to say, when asked who's better:
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Interview Link:
http://www.slushfactory.com/content/EpVlVFklZAmiBZDaKS.php
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AN: If Constantine and Lucifer were in a drag down take out no-holds-barred fight, who wins?
MC: Lucifer wins, then as he's walking away he realizes his wallet's gone.
