Darth Nihilus Vs Darth Sidious

"making you immune to the effects of the dark reaper for a short time". Lol. Ergo useless. And also no proof anyone learned it from Sidious.

And Sidious, hell even Dooku only need a short time to shove a lightsaber up Nihilus's a$$.

do you honestly expect the confrontation would be long?

I think you guys should let Gideon debate this. Neither one of you have much of an argument aside from "hope" and inane questions.

Originally posted by The Merchant
But he did. He learned it from Sidious which is why he can activate the Dark Reaper for a while without worrying about getting drained.

Proof?

So Dooku just knows? Even though the Dark Reaper was thought to be destroyed back in the Sith wars? And Sidious has been stated in numerous sources that he learned all force powers.

Oh so now we have to make a ridiculous assumption? That's called reaching. And that last quote is basically your last gasp attempt. Unfortunately, it's been established as hyperbole for years so nice playing. If you really had an argument and weren't trying to use Xtreme's method of dart board throwing, you would have used that hyperbole quote first. Instead, it's becoming quite obvious what's going on.

Actually it's more ridiculous that Dooku out of the blue just so happens to know how to block force drain. And Sidious could do drain too as well.

And Sidious just knows? Even though the Dark Reaper was thought to be destroyed back in the Sith wars?

So no proof then? Good. 👆

The fact is though that the point is moot since theres no indication that the Dark Reaper drains the person as fast as Nihilus' drain does, which is nigh instant. Anakins defense is to draw from the Force to replenish his drained energy, which only works if he still has a connection to the Force. If Nihilus drains his opponent before they can do that then they're fvcked.

Sidious was the one who rediscovered the Dark Reaper on Raxus Prime and activated it. And the Dark Reaper drained armies in an instant.

I think it's ridiculously silly that Sidious would allow Dooku to command a Force-leeching weapon that Dooku could then use against him if Palpatine didn't have an answer for it.

Originally posted by mstanford2912
I think you guys should let Gideon debate this.

Careful: if that happens, the KotOR side has a snowball's chance in hell of winning it.

Sure, if the snowball was the size of yo mamma.

Ouch, sick burn outta nowhere! Dis boi on fiya!

But wouldn't the snowball being bigger be better for the snowball whilst traversing Hades?

Are you implying that your mother is equal to or less than the size of a snowball?

Because I think that would spell ill of our relationship.

Considering that Sidious could block Nihilus's giga-drain in the first place, there's also the little tidbit about all who hear Nihilus's voice die? Sounds pretty retarded to me, but how do you suppose Sidious would counter that?

I thought his voice was just symbolic for his drain?

While I would prefer that theory, speculation<evidence. Even considering that this is the case, Nihilus is pretty powerful. His TK feat of bringing his fleet up from the planet of Malachor is probably the best or among the best we've seen in the mythos.

Still, Sidious is the most powerful Sith Lord that ever lived. He's probably not losing, but hey.

Wouldnt nihilus constant and instant aoe drain kill sidious regardless of if, and that is a very big if, he has resistance to nihilus drain or not?

I always thought that nihilus drain was different then any othe type of drain, as he was a wound in the force and thus consumed "energy" into nothingness. Where as all other types of drain just converted energy.

Furthermore since he is a wound in the force doesnt that mean he negates all force powers used against him or in his vicinity, such as lightening, tk, and individuals using the force to buff their own physical attributes such as speed and strength?

I mean even if sidious could resist his drain, since nihilus never stops draining and it is constant, and instant wouldnt it pretty much yax sidious to death in seconds? Couple that with the fact that a wound consumes every iota of the force would mean that whatever force sidious is using to resist, empower himself, would be consume as well making his resistance non existant.

Furthermore while nihilus is passively draining everything, he could be using his unrivaled TK to crush sidious into a ball. Sidious would be using his powers to resist (if even could in the first place), while the very force hes using to resist is being consumed, and while this is going on passively nihilus can use his unmatched tk to just outright kill sidious or keep him at bay long enough for his drain to do so.

I meam what could sidious do to even hurt nihilus? Force powers dont work on a wound, he cant get close to saber fight due to the tk, amd even if he could what is he going to do? Nihilus is just empty armor, there is nothing to even kill.

Just my theory on it

1. Sidious can honestly stop Nihilus's Force Drain, probably. Unless your theory about Nihilus's power being different from Drain is correct.

2. No, he does not negate any force powers.

3. Dark Reaper can't yax him. Why could Nihilus's?

4. I doubt Nihilus could just crush him with TK. In fact, I'm just going to confirm that he can't.

5. The Exile's lightsaber worked just fine.

Well i would think the exile was able to harm him bc he was also a wound.

Am i incorrect in that wounds cannot be harmed by the force bc they consume it at all times?

Nihilus tk does seem the most powerful according to feats, why is it he wouldnt be able to crush sidious when it is shown that when a user is stronger in the force than another user that they can fling them around and crush them? Ie sidious vs maul brothers?