Khan (Into Darkness) vs. Link (TP)

Started by ares83420 pages

So you're stating Link can survive a swim in lava? Ok... And people give Quanchi shit.

Because Quanchi is an idiot. You said:

Originally posted by ares834
So Link get his armor?

And as we've seen several times, Link can't withstand high heat. He sure as hell ain't tanking a shot from Khan's gun.

Originally posted by ares834
Fall into the lava and see what happens.

So, A. That's not several times. B. Unless you're wearing the Zora armour, you're fine.

So, uh, back up what you said before or stop resorting to insults? 🙂

A. You can fall into the lava several times.

B. You get hurt and teleported back to the entrance of the room implying you died. After all, if Link was truly able to survive swimming in lava he could have cut out portions of the dungeon.

Are khan's blasters lava hot? Even so, link's armor should allow him to survive long enough to get within cutting range.

And nothing noteworthy happens.

Wait, you're citing the standard 'fell into a hole' mechanic that's been in Zelda games since 1991, as evidence that, despite nothing pointing to it, and many things, like Link not actually dying, that Link dies? Wut. haermm That happens anytime you go somewhere that you can't get out of. It doesn't teleport you to the beginning of the dungeon, either, just the door you came in from. Want to know what happens when Link actually dies? He dies. Put on the Zora armour, jump in, you get a gameover.

So, next you're going to tell me Link isn't strong enough to break a door or jump a gap? Puzzle gameplay is enabled this way, lol. Or that falling into holes kills him, even though we know he's been fired at the ground out of a cannon? 😬

Falling into lava hurts Link. Nothing supports the idea that Link can survive falling into lava.

Put 2 and 2 together here.

And nothing supports Khan equating a balance-purposed game mechanic. Your point?

Dudes with clubs hurt Link in gameplay, that doesn't prove anything. We know he's very durable. Everything we're shown on the subject points to Link not reacting to heat the same way we do. He'd have to be much less resistant to heat than his ancestor to die from falling in lava, and falling in lava doesn't do anything unless you wear armour that makes you weak to heat. He uses the iron boots to walk through steam vents that would cook a man alive and hangs around inside active volcanoes inches from lava.

Not that any of this is relevant anyway because Link is the better marksman and has actual defense whereas Khan does not.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
And nothing supports Khan equating a balance-purposed game mechanic. Your point?

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Link has never been displayed as being able to resist very high temperatures certain,y not to the level of phaser weaponry. In fact, in OoT, merely going into a volcano hurts him.

Originally posted by ares834
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Link has never been displayed as being able to resist very high temperatures certain,y not to the level of phaser weaponry. In fact, in OoT, merely going into a volcano hurts him.


While we're implying TP Link is more resistant to heat than OoT Link, OoT Link could indeed walk around in lava, even without the Goron tunic. 🙂

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
While we're implying TP Link is more resistant to heat than OoT Link, OoT Link could indeed walk around in lava, even without the Goron tunic. 🙂

I was just looking for that, in fact. Lol.

You can actually wade through lava in OoT...

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Not that any of this is relevant anyway because Link is the better marksman and has actual defense whereas Khan does not.

Link may be the better marksmen, but he is bring a bow to a gun fight and I have yet to see Link shoot an arrow faster thanKhan could get a shot off.

I'll admit, with the magic armor, Link wins. Without it, don't really see how other than maybe reflecting some shots of his mirror shield.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
While we're implying TP Link is more resistant to heat than OoT Link, OoT Link could indeed walk around in lava, even without the Goron tunic. 🙂

Got a vid of him doing this without the red tunic and without getting hurt?

Originally posted by ares834
Link may be the better marksmen, but he is bring a bow to a gun fight and I have yet to see Link shoot an arrow faster thanKhan could get a shot off.

I'll admit, with the magic armor, Link wins. Without it, don't really see how other than maybe reflecting some shots of his mirror shield.


>Mirror shield
Have you even played TP? The Hylian shield's plenty though, since it's canonically indestructible and Link has much better reaction time than anyone Khan fought. Link can also shoot him from far away and Link's arrows are not something he wants to be hit with, they pierce stone.

Originally posted by ares834
Got a vid of him doing this without the red tunic?
One sec.

Originally posted by ares834
Link may be the better marksmen, but he is bring a bow to a gun fight and I have yet to see Link shoot an arrow faster thanKhan could get a shot off.

I'll admit, with the magic armor, Link wins. Without it, don't really see how other than maybe reflecting some shots of his mirror shield.

I thought you were beyond oversimplified logic? Conclusions such as "guns > swords" fails in the realm of fiction.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Link can also shoot him from far away and Link's arrows are not something he wants to be hit with, they pierce stone.

He doesn't.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
I thought you were beyond oversimplified logic? Conclusions such as "guns > swords" fails in the realm of fiction.

Read what I said. I doubt Link could get an arrow off before Khan pulls the trigger.

Getting dangerously close to gameplay mechanics here. By the logic we're operating under, the fact that falling into magma merely "hurts" Link instead out outright killing him should be enough to prove he has superhuman heat resistance. Though we already knew that from his ability to walk near magma, which is enough to roast people alive. Is that what we're going with?

In any case, Khan's gun isn't really machine gun fast. He typically fired in short 4 or 5 shot bursts while sweeping it anyway. Link can block or dodge that pretty easily until Khan decides to use the big gun, and it has a charge time.

Originally posted by ares834
He doesn't.

Read what I said. I doubt Link could get an arrow off before Khan pulls the trigger.

Why not?

I read it. We've been over this. It doesn't matter due to Link's reaction time + indestructible shield. 😄