Iron Man (Extremis) Vs Iron Man (Bleeding Edge)

Originally posted by cdtm
? My only point was on black and gold punking Spidey. It came after Extremis, right? So any future armors would have the same ability.

It's not even Extremis specific, Stark developed his anti spider sense protocols from analyzing Spider Armor data.

Ah. For some reason I thought you quoted the wrong post and meant to use SS as Extremis' advantage vs. BE here. My bad.

Yes, future suits *should* have the same ability. But there's one important fact -- Tony needed Extremis enhancements to actually fight in the Extremis suit. Without them, it was hard to perform even the mundane tasks (lifting, flying, etc.), as shown in his solo series.

The Punisher is a non-enhanced human and yet he was able to deal with Parker with just 1 blast. It can be easily argued that the only tech that helped him to do that was the standard reflexes augmentation that comes with pretty much every IM suit. I seriously doubt he'd be able to access the artificial Spider Sense without specific enhancements (Extremis being a necessary requirement in this case). Frank even comments he can "barely fly the damn thing" or something akin to that. Not to mention that Castle had no idea of that ability (SS).

Originally posted by Warlord
black and gold. the hulk thing was cool I agree. tagging spidy not so much considering the techstark has build in the past. In any case both Extremis and Bleeding edge seem more powerful not to mention cooler. hopefully the space one will be more impressive

If Tony had been in the suit, then it wouldn't have been anything great or what we haven't seen before ("strike one! strike two!" scene comes to mind), agreed. But it was the Punisher who could barely operate it.

Shows what a great reaction boost the suit can grant. Or maybe it's just me 😛

Power-wise it was a good showing, too... because, iirc, it was a single blast from one repulsor glove that put Pete down. As much as I love to lowball him, his durability is actually really good for a low-meta category he's usually placed at.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
If Tony had been in the suit, then it wouldn't have been anything great or what we haven't seen before ("strike one! strike two!" scene comes to mind), agreed. But it was the Punisher who could barely operate it.

Shows what a great reaction boost the suit can grant. Or maybe it's just me 😛

Power-wise it was a good showing, too... because, iirc, it was a single blast from one repulsor glove that put Pete down. As much as I love to lowball him, his durability is actually really good for a low- high meta category he's usually placed at.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
If Tony had been in the suit, then it wouldn't have been anything great or what we haven't seen before ("strike one! strike two!" scene comes to mind), agreed. But it was the Punisher who could barely operate it.

Shows what a great reaction boost the suit can grant. Or maybe it's just me 😛

Power-wise it was a good showing, too... because, iirc, it was a single blast from one repulsor glove that put Pete down. As much as I love to lowball him, his durability is actually really good for a low-meta category he's usually placed at.

Good points.

Was it in this suit that Stark had trouble with Mandarin's son? That says a lot about Temugin, if Stark tech's basic auto reflex's are beyond Peter now..

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
If Tony had been in the suit, then it wouldn't have been anything great or what we haven't seen before ("strike one! strike two!" scene comes to mind), agreed. But it was the Punisher who could barely operate it.

Shows what a great reaction boost the suit can grant. Or maybe it's just me 😛

Power-wise it was a good showing, too... because, iirc, it was a single blast from one repulsor glove that put Pete down. As much as I love to lowball him, his durability is actually really good for a low-meta category he's usually placed at.

don't get me wrong I agree in general and Parker has a good record against energy blasts and everything. It's just Extremis and especially BE armors have much better showings than this.
In any case BE ftw and both of these armors were infinitely cooler than the black gold one. Writters YU NO keep previous armor???? 😠

Originally posted by cdtm
Good points.

Was it in this suit that Stark had trouble with Mandarin's son? That says a lot about Temugin, if Stark tech's basic auto reflex's are beyond Peter now..

I'm not aware of any new encounters between Tony and Temugin (black/gold armor is quite new).

Anyway, even the classic red/gold suit gave Tony enough speed to surprise Nefaria once. So Temugin was definitely fast, having fought a much newer model.

Originally posted by Warlord
don't get me wrong I agree in general and Parker has a good record against energy blasts and everything. It's just Extremis and especially BE armors have much better showings than this.
In any case BE ftw and both of these armors were infinitely cooler than the black gold one. Writters YU NO keep previous armor???? 😠

Haven't been following Marvel much lately, but I guess you're right. Superior feats in both quantity and quality.

Bleeding edge is far more stronger, but i think his new space armor (godkiller)
Is better than bleeding edge IMO.

His new armor IS better and far more versatile imo.