Pokemon dreamteam challenge

Didn't say Breloom wasn't awesome, just saying that I think there are many more pokemon that are better overall.

I just don't use him all that often because Breloom has a quad weakness to flying, along with the weakness to fire, ice, psychic, and poison. Fire, ice, and psychic are pretty popular, and with Breloom's generation, he also has to deal with Rayquaza (flying/dragon) and Kyogre (water with insanely strong ice attacks) for legendary pokemon, which I think, if given the option, everybody uses.

Breloom has an base Attack stat of 130 and gets Technician. Technician boosts an attack with less than 60 base power by 50% and Bullet Seed has a base power of 25. So it then becomes a move with 37 base power that always hits at least twice (so actually 74 BP) and potentially up to five times. On average (3 hits) it's more powerful than Seed Bomb, Breloom's next best grass STAB move.

All it takes for Breloom to KO Lapras is for Bullet Seed to hit at least 3 times, even on a Lapras with full HP and Defense investment. Seed Bomb can only 2HKO Lapras like that.

Believe it or not, Bullet Seed is one of Breloom's most powerful moves.

Being part fighting type, they can also learn strong stabs such as dynamic and focus punch.

Ehhhhh. DynamicPunch has terrible 50% accuracy, if it misses Lapras will destroy Breloom with Ice Beam.

Now Focus Punch is good if you're running Substitute as well, but it telegraphs exactly what you're doing and only really works if an opponent is switching in.

Just my take, I don't really use Breloom often.

This team is from Platinum so it needs some updating but here it goes:

Froslass: Timid/Snowcloak
Hail
Blizzard
Thunderwave
Spikes

Drifblim: Bashful/Aftermath
Stockpile
Toxic
Thunderbolt
Baton Pass

Mismagius: Timid/Levitate
Hidden Power(Fire)
Nasty Plot
Pain Split
Shadow Ball

Spiritomb: Modest/Pressure
Substitute
Dark Pulse
Pain Split
Curse

Gengar: Timid/Levitate
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Hidden Power(Ground)
Explosion

Dusknoir: Brave/Pressure
Brick Break
Ice Punch
Rest
Pain Split

I forgot what items to use.

Originally posted by Cyner
This team is from Platinum so it needs some updating but here it goes:

Froslass: Timid/Snowcloak
Hail
Blizzard
Thunderwave
Spikes

Drifblim: Bashful/Aftermath
Stockpile
Toxic
Thunderbolt
Baton Pass

Mismagius: Timid/Levitate
Hidden Power(Fire)
Nasty Plot
Pain Split
Shadow Ball

Spiritomb: Modest/Pressure
Substitute
Dark Pulse
Pain Split
Curse

Gengar: Timid/Levitate
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Hidden Power(Ground)
Explosion

Dusknoir: Brave/Pressure
Brick Break
Ice Punch
Rest
Pain Split

I forgot what items to use.

Lots of Ghost, Dark, and Poison.

Gengar loses to Umbreon, Alakazam, or Marowak. Since Dusknoir and Mismagius are pure ghosts, then Umbreon takes them down. For Drifblim, I would use Electabuzz, for the flying portion, or Umbreon for the Ghost. Froslass would probably lose to Umbreon or Typhosion, due to the Ghost/Ice deal. Now for Spiritomb, which has no real weaknesses, I'd probably have Umbreon use Toxic and Confuse Ray, just to annoy the s**t out of you, and, hopefully, not lose Umbreon in the process. If I do lose him, I could send out anybody but Alakazam to take him down (by the way, thanks for not putting Wonder Guard on Spiritomb, that would've been hard AF to try to beat).

Also, I personally would rethink Hidden Power. While it gives a different type for attacks, it doesn't have that much base power (70) and it doesn't receive a STAB, so even with high Atk./Sp. Atk. it still doesn't do that much damage.

Why would Wondertomb even be a thing here, that is an illegal ability that requires hacking to have.

It's actually available in an event, so it's possible to get.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Nah, I'm not that good at competitive and I don't do it often. The team I posted up there was mostly a breeding project to see if I could do it in game. It's got a few too many weaknesses to things like priority, and I depend too much on my sweepers and dual screens to do much else. Breeding that Gallade and some Gardevoir is how I got my shiny Ralts, though.

Still, a team of Froslass, Magnezone, and Gyarados does pretty well in the PWT, though I prefer doubles. Gliscor, Rotom, Gastrodon and Metagross wreck faces in a double battle.

Same here, I am extremely not good. I just think of goofy shit to do for fun. Like, for ****s sake, if you know anything about the Metagame, and I know you do, you know that Torkoal and Stantler are not choices that normal people make. And I have both of them on my team. ****, I used to lead with Torkoal, and sweep teams with Stantler because nobody ****ing knew what to expect. And I even have a suicide lead with Focus Punch. Like, the ****? Who does that?

Originally posted by jmoul
It's actually available in an event, so it's possible to get.

Which event?

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Spiritomb#In_events
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Cynthia.27s_Spiritomb

The only event Spiritomb I can find is Cynthia's Spiritomb, and that one has Pressure.

That is, unless you're talking about this: http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/BW_Mall_Tour_plagued_with_hacked_distribution

In which case it's still hacked.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Same here, I am extremely not good. I just think of goofy shit to do for fun. Like, for ****s sake, if you know anything about the Metagame, and I know you do, you know that Torkoal and Stantler are not choices that normal people make. And I have both of them on my team. ****, I used to lead with Torkoal, and sweep teams with Stantler because nobody ****ing knew what to expect. And I even have a suicide lead with Focus Punch. Like, the ****? Who does that?

Yeah, same. I enjoy gimmicky teams too much. I've got a Gravity based team, and one that's joint Sandstorm/Trick Room. Not even counting my themed teams like the one where every Pokemon had Regenerator, or the All Weather Team that consisted of Politoed, Ninetales, Abomasnow, Hippowdon, and Dragonite. Never did find a 6th for that one.

Looking forward to some XY craziness. You getting it?

To be 100% honest, I've never played any Pokemon game after 3rd Gen, so the only way I knew of Wondertomb is by word of mouth. Some of my friends just told me that there were Spiritombs with Wonder Guard, and that it was possible through an event. I never knew anything more specific than that.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Yeah, same. I enjoy gimmicky teams too much. I've got a Gravity based team, and one that's joint Sandstorm/Trick Room. Not even counting my themed teams like the one where every Pokemon had Regenerator, or the All Weather Team that consisted of Politoed, Ninetales, Abomasnow, Hippowdon, and Dragonite. Never did find a 6th for that one.

Looking forward to some XY craziness. You getting it?

I had my preorders paid off months ago. Can't wait to see how this Fairy type works in, all the new 'mons in combat, the works. Gonna be so legit.

And lol, your teams still have more strategy behind them than mine. I've built entire teams around "Hmm, what's something weird and mostly useless I can do with THIS guy?"

I had an attacking Regigigas built for doubles and Mummy transfer in singles. Lmao. As well as a Crit Sweep Zangoose attempt, and a OHKO machine Ursaring. That Stantler? A beastly revenge killer. I had one guy I battled ask me "What the hell is that thing? I've never seen that Pokemon. Is it good?"

I kind of enjoy playing pokemon with the unknown or unused pokemon, it adds challenge, and it bugs the crap out of the people who think that only the really strong, and well-known pokemon should be trained.
I can remember when I trained a Heracross, a Skarmory (in Crystal), a Sunkern/Sunflora (I don't recommend doing so it was hard AF to level Sunkern to the right level before evolving him, and both his and Sunflora's stats are garbage.), an Octillery, a Lanturn, and, finally, an Aipom (Crystal). They were all in separate games, but when I used them, people had no clue how to battle them because they weren't mainstream, so I wound up winning a nearly I winnable match just because of them.

Originally posted by Cyner
This team is from Platinum so it needs some updating but here it goes:

Froslass: Timid/Snowcloak
Hail
Blizzard
Thunderwave
Spikes

Drifblim: Bashful/Aftermath
Stockpile
Toxic
Thunderbolt
Baton Pass

Mismagius: Timid/Levitate
Hidden Power(Fire)
Nasty Plot
Pain Split
Shadow Ball

Spiritomb: Modest/Pressure
Substitute
Dark Pulse
Pain Split
Curse

Gengar: Timid/Levitate
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Hidden Power(Ground)
Explosion

Dusknoir: Brave/Pressure
Brick Break
Ice Punch
Rest
Pain Split

I forgot what items to use.

Do you main Ghost types?

Hey Scenario, I don't mean to be a stickler for the details, but I just thought you should know, the Pokémon X mega evolutions animation you have is incorrect for Charizard. That is the mega evolution for Charizard in Y, but in X, the Mega Evolution is supposed to be black and blue with blue flames (and actually be dragon type)

Alike so:

Yeah, the signature was made before Charizard X was revealed, and we thought he had only one Mega Evolution. So my sig is technically wrong, but no one had any way of knowing that at the time.

Legendaries are allowed right? If so, this is the team I utilized in FireRed. Not my best team, but the only one I have memorized off the top of my head:

Mewtwo
Shadow Ball
Psychic
thunderbolt
flamethrower

Salamence
dragon claw
dragon dance
Crunch
Fly

Gengar
Shadow Ball
Nightmare
Hypnosis
Dream Eater

Registeel
Iron Defense
Amnesia
Earthquake
Zap Cannon

Milotic
Hydro Pump
Rain Dance
Recover
Ice Beam

Venusaur
Giga Drain
Toxic
Sludge Bomb
Protect

Legendaries are allowed, but just realize that I, personally consider them to be very cheap due to their god-like stats

Originally posted by The Scenario
Yeah, the signature was made before Charizard X was revealed, and we thought he had only one Mega Evolution. So my sig is technically wrong, but no one had any way of knowing that at the time.

Still a sweet signature.

ah ok, I won't be a cheap-o. Lemme get my FireRed and see whom I can replace Mewtwo with. I consider registeel a minor legendary, and is beat-able by all standards

Edit: Instead of Mewtwo:

Alakazam
Psychic
Reflect
Calm Mind
Shadow Ball

Anyways, how does this team stack up against yours?

It is fair to keep Registeel.

Although I could still beat Mewtwo with Umbreon, since his best attack (Psychic) does nothing to Umbreon. The only problem is, if Mewtwo has maxed-out Special Attack, than flamethrower and thunderbolt will be something to worry about.