Withstanding Black Bolt scream!!!

Originally posted by carver9
@Dark...

I don't get the point of your scan or post. I know that Black Bolt knocked a piece of the moon the size of RI off the moon. I also know that Hulk withstood forces on the moon that caused natural disasters on earth. So what's the argument here.? A whisper wouldn't cause near the damage I've referenced.

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That the Hulk had nothing to contribute to the tidal waves affecting Earth. Whereas your initial comment was worded to make it sound like the shockwaves from their fight were causing tidal waves. I know what you're trying to achieve here 😉

Fact is, ANY change in the Moon's mass would affect Earth. Taking out a football field's worth of Moon rock would also affect the tides.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That the Hulk had nothing to contribute to the tidal waves affecting Earth. Whereas your initial comment was worded to make it sound like the shockwaves from their fight were causing tidal waves. I know what you're trying to achieve here 😉

Fact is, ANY change in the Moon's mass would affect Earth. Taking out a football field's worth of Moon rock would also affect the tides.

Never said Hulk had anything to do with that. He have enough planetary fts under his belt. What I did say is, the series of events that was going on caused planetary results, and overall, it did. As for Hulk having an impact on this, we don't know if he did or didn't.

Originally posted by carver9
@Dark...

I don't get the point of your scan or post. I know that Black Bolt knocked a piece of the moon the size of RI off the moon. I also know that Hulk withstood forces on the moon that caused natural disasters on earth. So what's the argument here.? A whisper wouldn't cause near the damage I've referenced.

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Come on Carvster. Only Thor can cause planetary damage from that kind of distance!
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Originally posted by carver9
That's the same Bolt that Reed put in a tube and with a whisper, he ripped through reality. He also knocked a chunk of the moon with a whisper the size off Rhode Island.

And btw, BB's voice was only able to "rip through reality" thanks to Reed's device both amplifying the sound-wave energies AND focusing them into a singular point. It's not as though BB's voice can tear reality on its own. 😉

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
The gravitational events were probably being caused by the moon losing a huge chunk and not directly from their clash.

Come on Carvster. Only Thor can cause planetary damage from that kind of distance!
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I think (didn't read it when I posted it) my scan said "series of events". If it did state that, then...

Originally posted by carver9
Never said Hulk had anything to do with that. He have enough planetary fts under his belt. What I did say is, the series of events that was going on caused planetary results, and overall, it did. As for Hulk having an impact on this, we don't know if he did or didn't.

Well, we know Hulk didn't....else Stark would have said it.

Originally posted by Galan007
Cool, still doesn't answer my question, though. It was a Skrull, correct?

And btw, BB's voice was only able to "rip through reality" thanks to Reed's device both amplifying the sound-wave energies AND focusing them into a singular point. It's not as though BB's voice can tear reality on its own. 😉

Yeah, it was a skrull bolt identical to the real deal. He was able to fool some of the smartest beings on the planet.

I know...but his voice had a huge role in ripping through reality though. Then it was a whisper. Reed just focused that power.

Originally posted by carver9
Yeah, it was a skrull bolt identical to the real deal. He was able to fool some of the smartest beings on the planet.

I know...but his voice had a huge role in ripping through reality though. Then it was a whisper. Reed just focused that power.

Right, but what I'm saying is that BB's voice had to be amplified and focused by Reed's tech before it was able to rend reality-- BB's unaltered voice cannot do that. And BB wasn't "whispering" in that scene, he was "speaking".

Originally posted by Galan007
Thought so. 👆

Right, but what I'm saying is that BB's voice had to be amplified and focused by Reed's tech before it was able to rend reality-- BB's unaltered voice cannot do that. And BB wasn't "whispering" in that scene, he was "speaking".

As I understand it, the voice breaks down electrons, so it is in essence ripping apart reality no? I mean, that's disruption at the sub atomic level...

Originally posted by Galan007
Thought so. 👆

Right, but what I'm saying is that BB's voice had to be amplified and focused by Reed's tech before it was able to rend reality-- BB's unaltered voice cannot do that. And BB wasn't "whispering" in that scene, he was "speaking".

I agree.

Originally posted by dmills
As I understand it, the voice breaks down electrons, so it is in essence ripping apart reality no? I mean, that's disruption at the sub atomic level...

It's also worth noting that BB's voice-energies were referred to(by Reed) as "sound-waves."

Originally posted by Galan007
Not without first being amplified and focused by Reed's tech. 🙂

It's also worth noting that BB's voice-energies were referred to(by Reed) as "sound-waves."

I'm pretty sure that the voice has always been "quasi sonic" and it's true function was as an electron disruptor... But nowadays, you never know what's going on over at Marvel so...

It's probably just high-frequency sonics these days. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
It's probably just high-frequency sonics these days. /shrug

Yep... (I just read your response in the CO thread lol.)

If the basis the combat high end, Vulcan taking the voice and being reduced to a near skeletal state but surviving, then they all survive.

Hulk has been reduced to a near skeleton and survived (fight with Vector)

Nova Prime has been reduced to a near skeleton and survived (crashed into the phalanx barrier at far faster than light speeds).

Neither were even KO'd by those events and were either capable of speech (in Nova's case speech via TP and emergency deputization of a Nova centurion), or finishing a fight (in hulk's case).

Thor, Supes, Surfer et al at the very least have equal durability to those two so...

it's funny--a few years ago it would have been assumed that the voice kills these guys, no question. there's the scan of the scream being 'noticed' by eternity, right? the implication of that was that it was crazy uber powerful. i always hated that power. 😂 likely they could all survive with varying degrees of injury. and that is AWESOME imo.

Originally posted by leonidas
it's funny--a few years ago it would have been assumed that the voice kills these guys, no question. there's the scan of the scream being 'noticed' by eternity, right? the implication of that was that it was crazy uber powerful. i always hated that power. 😂 likely they could all survive with varying degrees of injury. and that is AWESOME imo.

Yeah... That was back when it destroyed electrons or whatever... None is more disappointed than I. But alas, you can't argue with the material. At least with the Vulcan showing you could kind of go "yeah but... Vulcan controls energy and maybe he nullified it's effects somewhat blah blah blah..." As it stands now, unless its explained later as BB not really unleashing it full bore for fear of destroying everything or what have you, Thanos tanking it at point blank range, followed by a face palm/choke slam to KO is the final nail in the coffin for that attack as the be all end all.

Or Thanos is just THAT durable lol.

yea it is still as crazy powerful as before. Thanks is a tank and can take soooooo much damage it is not even funny. I dont think any of these heroes will come out looking to well after taking a scream like thanos took. If they even survive it.

Originally posted by carver9
Who could survive Black Bolt scream at their average power level like Thanos did?

Nova Prime
World World Hulk
Superman
Thor
Silver Surfer