It's completely different. It's like comparing Inglorious Basterds to Schindler's List. They both take completely different approaches.
Many will like Django more because it's more "enjoyable" than 12 Years a Slave and makes slavery more digestible by way of its use of exploitation to soften the topic.
12 Years a Slave, on the other hand, plumbs the depths of human misery, evil and despair and is really about the psychological, physical and emotional horrors of slavery and fearlessly gazes at this aspect of slavery more than any other film ever has.
This is one of the reasons I'm really rooting for this film to win Best Picture this year - not only is it blatantly the best film of the year, but if it were to win, you could make the argument that it would have been the first horror film ever to win.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
As already mentioned, this isn't racial prejudice being brought into question, this is them admitting to racial prejudice.
One guy yelled he was going to punch the first white man he saw. He actually announced to the world what he'll do. The other guy admitted he went to harm someone of different colour because he was upset about a court case in Florida.Secondly, this whole 'our American history' reeks of American exceptionalism. We're all oversaturated with Americans telling us how much of an exception their slaves were. Considering that only around 5% of African slaves were sent to North America, nobody gives a rat's ass about what happened to the other 95% who ended up in South and Central America and West Indies, about their plight, horrible treatment nor their conditions today.
That's odd that you feel that way, considering you framed this in an American context yourself. I merely explained that context, and wasn't referencing slaves specifically. Racism extends beyond the slavery era.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Because it's the truth. Given, majority crime against black people are done by black people anyway, however, should white people attack black people for any reason, the reason immediately becomes invalid and the attack is racial. When it is the other way around, then all sorts of motives behind black attacking white are considered. This is just the reality in the US.
Originally posted by BackFire
Speaking purely about films/books/TV shows about slavery in America, there is something inherently interesting and unique, from a narrative standpoint, about America's history of slavery compared to others. And that is that America was a country explicitly founded on the principals of freedom and liberty and inalienable rights, and while preaching these ideals to the world we were stripping them away from an entire group of people. That innate hypocrisy makes for potentially very thematically interesting and rich narratives, which I believe is why there are so many films/etc about American slavery as opposed slavery in other lands. That, and of course most of them are made specifically for American audiences.But even then, it took until this year and 12 Years a Slave to have a genuinely great film that's really, truly about slavery. One of the things makes that film so great is that it doesn't try to say "Look how horrible American slavery was", it says "look how horrible slavery is" and simply uses American slavery as an avenue to explore themes and ideas that are universal to all forms of slavery - which is something that's never been done before, here.
Everyone should go see 12 Years a Slave, is what I'm getting at.
First Bardock and Apple, now you and Steve McQueen?
Originally posted by BackFireYouTube video
Everyone should go see 12 Years a Slave, is what I'm getting at.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
As already mentioned, this isn't racial prejudice being brought into question, this is them admitting to racial prejudice.One guy yelled he was going to punch the first white man he saw. He actually announced to the world what he'll do. The other guy admitted he went to harm someone of different colour because he was upset about a court case in Florida.
That's clearly not what was implied not does it prove a point.
Secondly, this whole 'our American history' reeks of American exceptionalism. We're all oversaturated with Americans telling us how much of an exception their slaves were. Considering that only around 5% of African slaves were sent to North America, nobody gives a rat's ass about what happened to the other 95% who ended up in South and Central America and West Indies, about their plight, horrible treatment nor their conditions today.
Those other slaves got their 40 acres and a llama.
Originally posted by BackFire
[B]Speaking purely about films/books/TV shows about slavery in America, there is something inherently interesting and unique, from a narrative standpoint, about America's history of slavery compared to others. And that is that America was a country explicitly founded on the principals of freedom and liberty and inalienable rights, and while preaching these ideals to the world we were stripping them away from an entire group of people. That innate hypocrisy makes for potentially very thematically interesting and rich narratives, which I believe is why there are so many films/etc about American slavery as opposed slavery in other lands. That, and of course most of them are made specifically for American audiences.But even then, it took until this year and 12 Years a Slave to have a genuinely great film that's really, truly about slavery. One of the things makes that film so great is that it doesn't try to say "Look how horrible American slavery was", it says "look how horrible slavery is" and simply uses American slavery as an avenue to explore themes and ideas that are universal to all forms of slavery - which is something that's never been done before, here.
Everyone should go see 12 Years a Slave, is what I'm getting at.
I have seen the previews last time I was at the movies. I actually read mixed reviews in a local paper(not kidding). Would you suggest that it's a must see in theartes right away, or wait for video. Going to the movies itself is a hassle(sighs)
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Dude! Last I checked this thread is not about you. Get over yourself already.
Did not say it was about me! I asked you a question, and YOU wont respond(thumbs up)
Originally posted by Oneness
Watched the video. Yea that is tragic, it's rough out there. Don't really have much else to say about it.
The thing that bother's me, is that there was no update to this video. I see some people make jokes, but damn they could have killed her. I swear you could see they kicked her in the head so hard, she nearly rocked. I am wondering if she lost her baby 🙁
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
In what was does your question have to do with the topic? It doesn't, so no.I can't believe you are trying to derail your own thread.
Derail my own thread by asking you a question?! I like how you just won't answer, and then tell me to "go away" and "get over myself"..jesus.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Derail my own thread by asking you a question?! I like how you just won't answer, and then tell me to "go away" and "get over myself"..jesus.
Dude, get over whatever it is that you are talking about. It was last month. I don't even remember what it was you were talking about, and don't tell me, I don't care. Leave me alone, and talk to someone else.
Originally posted by BackFire
P-Geyser - Whether it's must see in theaters is really personal preference. For me it was, I was really enticed by what I'd heard and it was a very interesting experience to see a film like that in theaters for me. I suggest you read up on it and decide for yourself.
Okay...Thanks man. Last film I saw in the theaters, was The Butler with Forrest Whitaker(which was great) From watching the previews on 12 year's a slave, it looks like it will grab a lot of emotion's out of the viewer. I know from the previews, The main character was free and by horrible luck, he was captured to become a slave 🙁
I asked about the theater's, because here in N.Y.C. people like to go to the movies to chat and text during the entire movie, and what's worse bring their infants. 👇
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Dude, get over whatever it is that you are talking about. It was last month. I don't even remember what it was you were talking about, and don't tell me, I don't care. Leave me alone, and talk to someone else.
Fine then stfu and stop replying and we will LEAVE IT AT THAT!!!
Originally posted by BackFire
P-Geyser - Whether it's must see in theaters is really personal preference. For me it was, I was really enticed by what I'd heard and it was a very interesting experience to see a film like that in theaters for me. I suggest you read up on it and decide for yourself.
Not gonna lie. I'm 23 years old and at parts of that movie I couldn't help but cry.