Originally posted by Galan007
I'd like to think Ulty wins, but Brutale is utterly stomping EVERYONE on Earth 2 right now(inc. Steppenwolf and Fate.)Undecided, atm.
He literally curbstomped Fate. Granted Fate has had the helmet for like, 5 minutes, and certainly doesn't have any confidence, but still 👆 If Darkseid is in fact more powerful (or significantly more powerful) than what we've seen from him, it's definitely a good start towards re-establishing Darkseid as a legit powerhouse.
He'll most likely only be beaten by plot device.
In all likelihood, these two are evenly matched and equally powerful. However, it remains to be confirmed that CSA members are equal to their Earth 1 counterparts. Also, it is possible Earth 2 Superman had some kind of power up.
Various in-comics explanations (holding back more than other guys, dynamic powers, mental blocks, etc.) have been tacked on to explain the great variety in power levels of Superman portrayals. But they don't really cover it. The truth is that Superman is the kind of guy perfectly suited to being the one hero that can dominate all the others. So when you want to write a story like that, you use him. On the other hand, that kind of power level is inconvenient in a most other stories. So you tone him down.
Originally posted by Golgo13Yeah, he's used it a few times:
Has he even used it, though? Can't remember.
Although this ability was initially referred to as "Apokolips death-beams" when the heroes first encountered Brutaal(first scan), this was prior to the revelation that he is really Superman-- thus they likely wouldn't even have considered heat-vision as an option. That said, E2 Alan tanked the attack when he wasn't even prepared for it(second scan), so I'm thinking it is just HV with an Apokoliptian twist. /shrug
Oh and aside from owning Steppenwolf and Fate, Brutaal also shit-stomped E2 Alan and Atom. Dude is a legit powerhouse.
Don't know how close Superman and Brutal are or the age difference but Superman is learning new things with his heat vision so you might be right...it could be a versatile way of using his heat vision.
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Originally posted by carver9
Don't know how close Superman and Brutal are or the age difference but Superman is learning new things with his heat vision so you might be right...it could be a versatile way of using his heat vision.http://s1143.photobucket.com/albums/n638/carver9/?action=view¤t=snapshot11_zps8ac83371.jpg
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What new things? Firing his heat vision as pulses rather than beams?
This superman is the same superman who got defeated by the parademond on earth 2.
Earth 1 superman did not sucumbed to the parademons ans was able to match pysically DS.
So I am not sure if this earth 2 superman is as powerful as earth 1 superman.
Or if earth 1 superman is not as brutal as earth 2 superman.
There are too many variables.
I think Ultraman wins this after a good fight.