1. Vitiate
2. Dread Masters
3. Darth Jadus
4. Darth Nox
5. Darth Malgus
6. The First Son
7. The Emperor's Wrath
8. Darth Marr
9. Darth Thanaton
10. Darth Baras
No's 3 to 6 are kind of interchangeable. Jadus has the hugely impressive feat of shielding his cruiser from destruction and was said to be the most powerful Sith barring Vitiate but he has little else. I'm mostly putting him at the top out of personal feeling. I'm not sure I'd actually back him over the others in a thread. Malgus has extremely potent abilities and combat prowess that make him a dominating combatant. Nox has the combined power of 6 Master-level Force Users, powerful lightning, TK and shields and good mental power, owned Thanaton and is noted to be the most powerful Sith in generations. The First Son was able to conceal hundreds of Force Users at once constantly, is supreme amongst the powerful Emperor's Children and was a good fight for the Barsen'thor. All of them are incredible in their own ways.
I think its quite a big gap between them and the rest of the list. Marr might be above the Wrath. Dunno.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Meh. The Wrath seemed to be only a bit above Baras in that video I posted. More or less equal really. And Baras hasn't done anything that makes me think he approaches Malgus, the First Son, Jadus or Nox.
Uhh Baras at the height of his power was strong enough that the Emperor's Hands didn't think the Wrath had what it took to down him.
Marr and Ravage are most likely above the Wrath considering even after having his witnessing the Wrath's power Baras had faith that (especially Marr) could 'strike on the Emperor's behalf'.
Ravage's blatant trash talking of Thanaton, and his calmness in suggesting both he and Mortis could "silence" him hints towards a degree of superiority.
Also Marr, Ravage and Mortis were the big dogs towards the end of the war, with nominal political power also being in the hands of Vowrawn.
I did forget about the First Son though...
So revised list.
1. Emperor
2. Dread Masters
3. Darth Jadus/ First Son
4. Darth Malgus
5. Darth Marr
6. Emperor's Wrath
7. Darth Baras
8. Darth Ravage
9. Darth Mortis
10. Darth Nox
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Yeah, i'm confident that one of those councilors could take down the wrath after a long fight with a vastly powerful dark council member...Yeah I don't think Marr and Ravage are above the wrath. anyways, why Nox so low?
I am confident Marr could take the Wrath. The man has control of 3 Sphere's of the Empire and is nominally the most powerful Sith in the galaxy by the late-game war.
Because defeating Thanaton isn't that impressive. He's mid-tier as far as the Council is concerned. Ravage seemed confident both him and Mortis could take him to the curb.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Because defeating Thanaton isn't that impressive. He's mid-tier as far as the Council is concerned. Ravage seemed confident both him and Mortis could take him to the curb.
Marr seemed to think Thanaton was top-tier. He says that he'd never thought to see anyone beat Thanaton.
And its impressive because Nox completely owns him. Nox is the most powerful Dark Council Member imo.
Originally posted by Nephthys
[B]Marr seemed to think Thanaton was top-tier. He says that he'd never thought to see anyone beat Thanaton.
That's because Marr is old as shit. He's been a Dark Councilor for 40 years. Ravage's manner of speaking towards Nox and Thanaton is completely different than from Baras and the Wrath.
And its impressive because Nox completely owns him. Nox is the most powerful Dark Council Member imo.
Nox is most certainly not the most powerful Dark Council member from hype. That almost certainly will go to Darth Marr. If Nox was so powerful she'd be consulted on matters of import. Instead Marr, Ravage, Mortis, and Vowrawn are the ones who are consulted on matters such as selecting the new Dark Council members.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
That's because Marr is old as shit. He's been a Dark Councilor for 40 years. Ravage's manner of speaking towards Nox and Thanaton is completely different than from Baras and the Wrath.
His tone would suggest otherwise. To me he was saying that he didn't think Thanaton would lose to anyone so easily. It fits with him being complimetary of Thanaton after you beat him.
Ravage is a punk, so who cares what he says. His objection was because Nox was only a Lord. When talking to the Emperor's Chosen of course he'd be more polite.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Nox is most certainly not the most powerful Dark Council member from hype. That almost certainly will go to Darth Marr. If Nox was so powerful she'd be consulted on matters of import. Instead Marr, Ravage, Mortis, and Vowrawn are the ones who are consulted on matters such as selecting the new Dark Council members.
I don't see how that follows. Nox is kind of.... stupid and inexperienced, so it makes sense to not to consult her on matters of actual import. In terms of demonstrated power she is above all the Dark Council. The way she got onto the Council was through raw power. Why would they even consult her about new Dark Council members when she's so green she hardly knows any of the candidates they'd be discussing?
Originally posted by Nephthys
His tone would suggest otherwise. To me he was saying that he didn't think Thanaton would lose to anyone so easily. It fits with him being complimetary of Thanaton after you beat him.
Except in that situation he is begging Nox to put aside her powerplays and such. So of course he's going to be flattering towards her accomplishments. All he says was that he was a better Sith than Ravage gives him credit for.
Ravage is a punk, so who cares what he says. His objection was because Nox was only a Lord. When talking to the Emperor's Chosen of course he'd be more polite.
That 'punk' is nominally one of the top 3 Sith left in the Empire, and casually threatened to stomp your overhyped Thanaton. Except most if not all of the Council knew Baras was full of shit.
I don't see how that follows. Nox is kind of.... stupid and inexperienced, so it makes sense to not to consult her on matters of actual import. In terms of demonstrated power she is above all the Dark Council. The way she got onto the Council was through raw power. Why would they even consult her about new Dark Council members when she's so green she hardly knows any of the candidates they'd be discussing?
Because she has a considerable power base and powers of her own. If she was the most powerful Darth on the Council, I am pretty sure they'd consult her. Also again, I doubt Marr, Ravage or Mortis would have a problem taking Thanaton to the curb.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Except in that situation he is begging Nox to put aside her powerplays and such. So of course he's going to be flattering towards her accomplishments. All he says was that he was a better Sith than Ravage gives him credit for.
And if Ravage was such hot shit he'd be the one entrusted with the "This is the Empire's last chance" mission, not Nox.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
That 'punk' is nominally one of the top 3 Sith left in the Empire, and casually threatened to stomp your overhyped Thanaton. Except most if not all of the Council knew Baras was full of shit.
Only because he's one of the only ones left alive. Probably because he hasn't freaking done anything. His threats mean nothing. Thanaton threatens to beat up the entire Council after Ravages threat so who gives a shit about idle words? Baras had a considerable power base and no-one wanted to piss off the Emperor if it was true. Marr flat out says this.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Because she has a considerable power base and powers of her own. If she was the most powerful Darth on the Council, I am pretty sure they'd consult her. Also again, I doubt Marr, Ravage or Mortis would have a problem taking Thanaton to the curb.
Again, I don't see why they would. Her opinion is worthless since she's too inexperienced to know any of the candidates. She is good for beat shit up. Very good. By feats she is above them.
Originally posted by Nephthys
[B]And if Ravage was such hot shit he'd be the one entrusted with the "This is the Empire's last chance" mission, not Nox.
Bullshit. Ravage, Mortis and Marr have an entire war to oversee. Or did you miss the whole 'We will face total defeat within the year' thing.
Only because he's one of the only ones left alive. Probably because he hasn't freaking done anything. His threats mean nothing. Thanaton threatens to beat up the entire Council after Ravages threat so who gives a shit about idle words? Baras had a considerable power base and no-one wanted to piss off the Emperor if it was true. Marr flat out says this.
Yes, but its also due to his power. If anyone could claim to be the Voice, more would do it.
Again, I don't see why they would. Her opinion is worthless since she's too inexperienced to know any of the candidates. She is good for beat shit up. Very good. By feats she is above them.
I'm not talking about feats, obviously.