Deathstroke vs captain america

Your banking to much on Bruce jumping on Slade as a superior advantage and not adding that Slade held his own initially with his weapon as well. Maybe if he didn't use that weapon in the very beginning and fought hand to hand Bruce would have capitalized much better on Slade. But Slade did use a weapon to fight while Batman did not.

But, Batman faced Capt unarmed-to-shield too. And Deathstroke normally has weapons so that pretty much applies to all his fights, and has weapons here.

Either way claiming Slade's victory over Batman is more impressive is not much of a point since they were different circumstances in comparison to Cap's vs Bat's fight.

Different circumstances.. that leaned to Bat's direction.

It's kinda impressive gymnastics, how you're trying to paint a clear victory as less impressive than a near-even matchup.

Captain America wins and the Only reason Deathstroke beat Batman is because he is physically stronger, not more skilled, he said it himself and Cap has a Physical Advantage over Batman as well, so it would be a good Fight but in the End Cap Wins he has way better Feats and has more Experience. Deathstroke is Good but he has no chance against Captain America especially Morals Off and if this is Ultimate Captain America it's over for Slade

Slade has this. Unless he foolishly curses the great nation of America in the beginning of the fight and gives Cap herald level powers

Originally posted by Warlord
Slade has this. Unless he foolishly curses the great nation of America in the beginning of the fight and gives Cap herald level powers

Ultimate Cap Stomps Slade HARD

Originally posted by Q99
But, Batman faced Capt unarmed-to-shield too. And Deathstroke normally has weapons so that pretty much applies to all his fights, and has weapons here.

My point exactly. Cap did not use his shield vs Bruce in JLA/Avengers. Slade did use a weapon. As Batman did not use his weapons vs Slade.

Slight differences and Cap holds back more unlike Slade.

Different circumstances.. that leaned to Bat's direction.

It's kinda impressive gymnastics, how you're trying to paint a clear victory as less impressive than a near-even matchup.

It not less impressive nor more impressive. It to "it's" own. In comparison to their fights with a set of different circumstances. Your comparing this fight to another. How about we compare the fight were Batman knocked out Slade with the but of a rifle to his fight were Cap stalemated him with Bat's confession.

See what I did there. Its just you choose this fight alone(for the comparison) which doesn't really make a case for you to Slade being more impressive then Cap.

It is neither here nor there. Your trying to find something to give Slade an edge(over Cap) but that is not the case for your comparison, since it had a different "set" of circumstances to begin with.

Originally posted by RedX1852
Ultimate Cap Stomps Slade HARD

This is about Cap. Not Ultimate Cap.

Problem with most people is that they go by all kind of bios.
anyone who reads comics knows Cap has by far the better overall feats both on stats and both on fights.
i like how the deathstroke side brings the so called batman fight, how about the ones where slade got his ass handed to him by nightwing? or where he got bested by bronze tiger?
as i said if we go by feats Cap destroys that guy.

Slade.

It not less impressive nor more impressive. It to "it's" own. In comparison to their fights with a set of different circumstances. Your comparing this fight to another.

Comparing fights is kinda what we *do*. And some fights *are* more impressive than others.

How about we compare the fight were Batman knocked out Slade with the but of a rifle to his fight were Cap stalemated him with Bat's confession.

You think if Batman got the drop on Capt he couldn't knock him out?

It is neither here nor there. Your trying to find something to give Slade an edge(over Cap) but that is not the case for your comparison, since it had a different "set" of circumstances to begin with.

All fights have different circumstances. To say you can't compare them because of that is silly.

Originally posted by Q99
Comparing fights is kinda what we *do*. And some fights *are* more impressive than others.

Depends on the feats in the fight. You don't really show a more impressive feat that out does Cap's own impressive feats.

You think if Batman got the drop on Capt he couldn't knock him out?

Irrelevant by your logic. Batman KO Slade straight up with the butt of his own rifile as Slade was going to use his sword. Batman never knocked out Cap in their fight. So Cap is more impressive by your own logic.(Which I don't agree with)

All fights have different circumstances. To say you can't compare them because of that is silly.

Of course they can be compared. Its just your comparison to say Slade defeating Batman is more impressive(then Cap vs Bat's fight) is a illogical comparison because of the different circumstances.

It is a different feat but you have not proven it to be better feat. As that is what your stance is lacking.

Here is more of your logic. Cap looks more impressive against Batman if you consider he has never been defeated unlike with a outside factor.

Slade was knocked out by Batman twice. Once with the butt of his rifle and another time via sneak attack. Cap record vs Batman looks far more impressive then Slade.(I don't agree with this logic but I'm using your type of logic)

The only other time Batman won was a voted fight and that one the "out side factor" of water to make Steve drown from Batman's batarang hit.

Slade wins with gear.

Cap in pure h2h.

Idk why people ignore all Slades good showings and focus on the bad. What about all those times he effortlessly destroyed nightwing(which is the majority of their fights)? What about when he owned bruce. Hell, he beat Bruce down two times after he suckered him even in one of the encounters he eventually lost. Does cap own superhuman teams close combat, standard gear over and over throughout the years after simply analyzing their strengths and weaknesses? No.

Cap wins

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Depends on the feats in the fight. You don't really show a more impressive feat that out does Cap's own impressive feats.

Slade's done more impressively against Bruce. Bruce is pretty much the only reference point we have between the two. Therefore, it shows an edge.

Irrelevant by your logic. Batman KO Slade straight up with the butt of his own rifile as Slade was going to use his sword. Batman never knocked out Cap in their fight. So Cap is more impressive by your own logic.(Which I don't agree with)

If we *only* had that one to go on, sure. However, as we have multiple fights to go on, we know that's not how it normally goes. Lucky shots happen, and Capt could get one too, but it's not the norm.

Here is more of your logic. Cap looks more impressive against Batman if you consider he has never been defeated unlike with a outside factor.

That's not my logic, that's phrasing things in an extremely limited way to overlook the big picture 🙂

Like Namorsubby said, you can't just ignore Slade's many, many good showings.

Let's not forget, pretty much any time high-level martial artists fight him, they inner-monolog about how much more powerful he is. Even when they have a numbers edge or similar (like when he took on Black Canary, Huntress, and Lady Blackhawk at the same time).

Originally posted by Q99
Slade's done more impressively against Bruce. Bruce is pretty much the only reference point we have between the two. Therefore, it shows an edge.

An edge that is only in your head. Sure that I agree with.

If we *only* had that one to go on, sure. However, as we have multiple fights to go on, we know that's not how it normally goes. Lucky shots happen, and Capt could get one too, but it's not the norm.

Yeah and the fight that you cite for Cap vs Bat does not have to be a feel out fight either. Like I said different set of circumstances. You have to look at the over all record. Not just cherry pick the fight you like and ignore the others.

That's not my logic, that's phrasing things in an extremely limited way to overlook the big picture 🙂

Exactly. One vs compared to another versus. Seems like your looking at the small picture. 🙂

Like Namorsubby said, you can't just ignore Slade's many, many good showings.

Let's not forget, pretty much any time high-level martial artists fight him, they inner-monolog about how much more powerful he is. Even when they have a numbers edge or similar (like when he took on Black Canary, Huntress, and Lady Blackhawk at the same time).

Good point as this line of reasoning opens the door for many more Cap feats. Cap to gets major props in his strength and powers. Statements from Ironfist himself to Cable, Daredevil, Punisher. The list goes on and on. On Cap's speed and power advantage and this is a guy that normally holds back. Plus add to that with the skill impression that others tell him about as well.

Cap has taken on the entire team of villains and has had a edge on Spiderman himself. USAagent who once stalemated all the Avengers Cap at times makes him look like a joke. Seriously his list goes on and on.

With Cap you might find a bad showing of him without his regular shield losing to Hawkeye equiped with a new prep arrow to takes out his energy shield to score a win.

With Slade you can find Roy Harper no selling Slade's punch(by catching it in his fist easily) and then knocking out Slade briefly.

This route does not lead you to anywhere of some type of advantage for Slade.

CA

Cap has this Deathstroke and him are equal in terms of Physical Ability's, the only difference in H2H Skills and Slades Factor

Originally posted by RedX1852
Cap has this Deathstroke and him are equal in terms of Physical Ability's, the only difference in H2H Skills and Slades Factor

Agree although Cap's healing factor was shown pretty up there in the current run. He didn't age one bit in the 12 years that had passed and the physical trauma of his chest rip and the insane falls. The guy just does not stop but same for Slade.

Cap wins in h2h due to better skills although Slade is physically superior. Slade wins otherwise.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Slade is physically superior.

Many past Slade fans would claim such a idea. But are never able to actually prove this.

There is a good reason for that.