And besides everyone knows the multiplication process even you on some different threads said it was x50, then 2 then 4 the only reason your not agreeing to it now is because i gave reasons why hulks base is 100 tons and why goku's base is far beyond 400 tons you can deny it all you want but i had seen you multiply like that so dont even try to lie now.
Originally posted by I am Vegeta"I can't prove it"
I know my dbz I cant show you that it boost him by 50, 2 , and 4 its been stated if you knew your crap I have proven you wrong several times and you have not given scans either so i dont want to hear it your just mad cause your losing an argument you should no your crap before arguing with someone who actually uses logic and his brain.
Far simpler than I imagined.
But I've grown bored of waiting for you to supply evidence to your.. somewhat lacking claims. Yes, the multipliers for the SS stages are 50, 2 and 4. The issue you seem to be missing is that they're talking about the power level/Ki increases, not their speed, strength etc increases. Want to say that his Ki goes up by 400x? Go for it, its true. But if you want to suggest his speed, his strength, durability, intelligence, post work out scent or whatever increases by that same amount, you'll need to provide evidence that confirms this direct 1:1 connection.
Do that, and there will be no arguments. If not stop bitching about it.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I lol'd. Woo, a tiny hole > destroying dimensions.Spirit bomb is suddenly non physical.
The DBZ bias in here is getting a bit steamy.
He made the hole by just screaming. And that whole in space/time could have destroyed the universe as Piccolo noted. Not to mention that is the Hulk's single greatest quantifiable feat, in 50 years.
The DBZ downplay is ridiculous. What is Hulk going to do to Buu? Punch him? Thunderclap? Rofl. Buu turns him into candy or blitzes the shit out of him. Or just destroys the planet 10 times over with a casual blast.
Originally posted by BloodRainListen his SSJ levels boost a lot of things but not everything. It boost strength, speed, durability and a few other things you would know this if you knew your stuff also stop complaining that i havent given feats even though i gave you sites especially when you have gave nothing at all.
The universe chain was only said in the anime, unless Piccolo made a comment in the manga.Been thinking, if SS Goku could fight with 40 tons in the way base can with 2, does that mean that 50x Ki boost gives him 20x strength?
Originally posted by ScreamPasteActually the spirit bomb is energy not a physical attack like a punch or kick it is a blast powerful enough to destroy buu all the way to his atoms you have no valid argument.
I lol'd. Woo, a tiny hole > destroying dimensions.Spirit bomb is suddenly non physical.
The DBZ bias in here is getting a bit steamy.
Originally posted by NemeBroI lol at this goku in base easily lifted up a 15 ton boulder before the end of the cell saga you know nothing about his strength he was lifting 40 tons in 10x gravity thats fact.
Only if it is definitively shown that 2 tons (It was 4 actually but just to address your point) is base Goku's limit and 40 tons was SSJ Goku's limit.
Originally posted by BloodRainApparently you dont know dbz if you do not know this god the hating in here just gets worse especially this guy look ki boost strength speed and everything else ever seen goku vs freeza goku couldn't keep up with freeza in anything and he didn't even have to go a quarter of his power but remember when he turned yeah he kept up a lot easier and was even more physically strong. Also goku was already in bad condition before he turned so he wasent even able to use his full strength. And no level 1 dosent boost him by 20 it boost him by 50 now your just making up shit also this was before he hit full power SSJ1.
"I can't prove it"Far simpler than I imagined.
But I've grown bored of waiting for you to supply evidence to your.. somewhat lacking claims. Yes, the multipliers for the SS stages are 50, 2 and 4. The issue you seem to be missing is that they're talking about the power level/Ki increases, not their speed, strength etc increases. Want to say that his Ki goes up by 400x? Go for it, its true. But if you want to suggest his speed, his strength, durability, intelligence, post work out scent or whatever increases by that same amount, you'll need to provide evidence that confirms this direct 1:1 connection.
Do that, and there will be no arguments. If not stop bitching about it.
Originally posted by byrdgang21Um ya when has current hulk done that. That was when hulk was reaching his best but he starts in base he will be dead before even gets to that that is what your not getting.
Hulk has destroyed dimensions just by thunder clapping & from the shock waves from his punches.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
He made the hole by just screaming. And that whole in space/time could have destroyed the universe as Piccolo noted. Not to mention that is the Hulk's single greatest quantifiable feat, in 50 years.The DBZ downplay is ridiculous. What is Hulk going to do to Buu? Punch him? Thunderclap? Rofl. Buu turns him into candy or blitzes the shit out of him. Or just destroys the planet 10 times over with a casual blast.
Correct with me if I'm wrong but wasn't that Buu actually Super Buu who was actually stronger than Kid Buu because he had absorbed the Kai's. I thought Kid Buu who was the original Buu was just more ruthless not more powerful.
Originally posted by I am VegetaBurden of proof.
Listen his SSJ levels boost a lot of things but not everything. It boost strength, speed, durability and a few other things you would know this if you knew your stuff also stop complaining that i havent given feats even though i gave you sites especially when you have gave nothing at all.
Originally posted by I am VegetaI'd rather my fanhood for DB wasnt put near this fanboy craze you have going on. Cool, it increases his stats. Now quantify it, burden of proof.
Apparently you dont know dbz if you do not know this god the hating in here just gets worse especially this guy look ki boost strength speed and everything else ever seen goku vs freeza goku couldn't keep up with freeza in anything and he didn't even have to go a quarter of his power but remember when he turned yeah he kept up a lot easier and was even more physically strong. Also goku was already in bad condition before he turned so he wasent even able to use his full strength. And no level 1 dosent boost him by 20 it boost him by 50 now your just making up shit also this was before he hit full power SSJ1.
Look, it isn't that hard. You believe it has a direct 1:1 relationship, right? Well if you're so certain you wouldn't mind backing up your argument. Can you do this or not? You are meant the be great DBZ fanboy, so lets see you defend your beloved verse. I'm giving you a window to prove to everyone you're right, I suggest taking it.
As you can see he starts off at 8 tons then he does 40 tons though he cannot move he was still able to lift it and remember this is on a kai's planet which is 10x gravity so it is actually 400 tons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8SfpOj6vmU
This is goku at level 3 and they are almost equal yet kid buu is a little bit stronger so if goku's lifting is 400 tons then multiply it by 50, 2, then 4 and you have Kid buu's strength.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNuXZR-pGzg
And if you already didnt know goku at base was equal to kid buu at the end of the saga where they last fought.
He also explains in here that his planet has 10x gravity. All other kai planets are similar to his they all have 10x gravity. .