Originally posted by Insane Titan
Could go either, lol at easily fanboy idiots at there best
This isn't fanboyism, it's hardly even a challenge.
H/P Doomsday engaged bigger guns than WWH, and wasn't even hurt.
90's Darkseid, when he was beast and not a jobber? The same Darkseid who one-shot Hank and one-shot missiles Superman couldn't budge? Took his best shot and one-paneled him.
Amped Superman? Didn't hurt DD at all. DD broke his arm like a twig and shrugged off the force of a million nukes that rocked Superman.
Waverider (trans-level dude btw)? DD dispersed his energies with zero effort.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Also Radiant who killed the same doomsday who was mowing through green lanterns and survived a guardian's suicide in a blast that destroyed 1/5th of a planet (which if you've read enough Jurgens' comics is above pretty much any herald level fight he's written) had no effect on H/P Doomsday.
Yeah I didn't mention that because it was a clear case of adaptation to a prior enemy's abilities, but yeah, DD adapts 👆
90's Superman, while amped isn't close in power to pre reboot or current Superman...let alone WWH. Superman back then also did well against this version of Doomsday. The Darkseid showing was great and all but that doesn't mean he would physically take down Hulk...someone who is clearly stronger than him and can adapt as well along with getting even more powerful while the fight progress.
Originally posted by carver9
90's Superman, while amped isn't close in power to pre reboot or current Superman...let alone WWH. Superman back then also did well against this version of Doomsday. The Darkseid showing was great and all but that doesn't mean he would physically take down Hulk...someone who is clearly stronger than him and can adapt as well along with getting even more powerful while the fight progress.
1. Prove Hulk is "clearly" stronger than early Darkseid. Don't just make baseless statements, especially when you don't know shit about Darkseid.
2. Point is, Superman wasn't even close to being able to hurt Doomsday, let alone defeat him. We saw later the same H/P Doomsday was at least equal to Loeb Superman, as the two of them were tearing through Imperiex Probes like tissue paper. The same probes who were tearing through formidable teams of heroes (e.g. JLA, JSA, LOSH + Mordru).
Originally posted by carver9
90's Superman, while amped isn't close in power to pre reboot or current Superman...let alone WWH. Superman back then also did well against this version of Doomsday. The Darkseid showing was great and all but that doesn't mean he would physically take down Hulk...someone who is clearly stronger than him and can adapt as well along with getting even more powerful while the fight progress.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That superman was amped by kryptonite-x and that's where superman got his upgrade from byrne's weak superman. He was the same superman who was throwing ships the size of a small moon to other solar system and shit. He was absolutely comparable to preboot superman at the end.
He really wasn't comparable to pre reboot based off fts. You know what I am saying is true, just type "I agree with you Carver".
Originally posted by Cogito
1. Prove Hulk is "clearly" stronger than early Darkseid. Don't just make baseless statements, especially when you don't know shit about Darkseid.2. Point is, Superman wasn't even close to being able to hurt Doomsday, let alone defeat him. We saw later the same H/P Doomsday was at least equal to Loeb Superman, as the two of them were tearing through Imperiex Probes like tissue paper. The same probes who were tearing through formidable teams of heroes (e.g. JLA, JSA, LOSH + Mordru).
That wasn't the true Darkseid iirc. Even if it was, there's nothing supporting him being on Hulks level physically.
Superman did hurt him though and again, this version of Superman was weaker than current Superman before the reboot. I would give the latest version of Superman the majority against Doomsday as well since he received a major power increase after fighting HP.
Originally posted by carver9
That wasn't the true Darkseid iirc. Even if it was, there's nothing supporting him being on Hulks level physically.Superman did hurt him though and again, this version of Superman was weaker than current Superman before the reboot. I would give the latest version of Superman the majority against Doomsday as well since he received a major power increase after fighting HP.
1. No.
2. No, Superman did not hurt him. Closest he got was using sonics, which lasted about half a second before DD adapted.
3. See OWAW
Originally posted by Cogito
1. No.2. No, Superman did not hurt him. Closest he got was using sonics, which lasted about half a second before DD adapted.
3. See OWAW
Glad we agree nothing supports him being on Hulks level.
Superman did hurt him.
Why do I need to read OWAW again? I know of all the times the probes been damaged.