Aquaman vs Thing

Originally posted by comicfan11
Your are spot on. Earth-2 Aquaman is like Kal-L.

Earth 2 Aquaman's father found some ruins of Atlantis, and then he did some scientific procedure to give Aquaman his powers. It's basically more or less the origin of Arthur Joseph Curry (the Sword of Atlantis Aquaman).

Well Aquaman's history has been kept intact up to Flashpoint.
Numerous times there have been direct references or entire plots based on his Silver Age stuff, that get resolved post Crisis.

Everyone in the Aquaman mythos has been relatively unchanged, and the changes are always mentioned in the comics.

For example Ocean Master's history is one continuous story.
In Time and Tide we see some of the modern changes but his Silver Age origin is the same as being shown in the very same story.
In Aquaman's case writers mostly added stuff they liked without changing the history, and when they changed something they made it fit with previous continuity.

Another perfect example is the Silver Age and Modern Age Lava Trolls.
In the modern age Aquaman not only recalls his first meeting with them exactly as it was, but they got the original artist (the Great Jim Apparo) to draw the flashback in the modern issue, to make sure it enhances continuity.

Thanks and interesting. I take it they didn't do a new Aquaman origin Post-CRISIS like with Superman and some others? Superman has stuff that references Pre-CRISIS continuity, but I guess just those examples would be canon for him. Would make sense if someone didn't have an origin reboot and several references to Pre-CRISIS that their Pre-CRISIS appearances would largely be in tact(of course some stuff wouldn't fit due to OTHER characters that were rebooted).

Originally posted by Delta1938
Thanks and interesting. I take it they didn't do a new Aquaman origin Post-CRISIS like with Superman and some others? Superman has stuff that references Pre-CRISIS continuity, but I guess just those examples would be canon for him. Would make sense if someone didn't have an origin reboot and several references to Pre-CRISIS that their Pre-CRISIS appearances would largely be in tact(of course some stuff wouldn't fit due to OTHER characters that were rebooted).

He had Time and Tide that was basically a 4 issue mini retelling of his earlier stuff.
They made some changes in his origin, but made it fit with all his previous stuff.
Aquaman was revealed to be a full Atlantean, but they made sure it doesn't disregard his previous stories, since he also had a surface father, but in this case he was just not his biological father.
They made it fit with all the previous stuff, while adding some some new ones.
And in both cases the timeline was preserved since Aquaman started his superhero actions at the same time more or less (after the death of his surface father).

Apart from that everything was the same.
Tempest had his story with Tula intact.
Ocean Master tried to take over Atlantis (as shown in the exactly same way in both cases).
Black Manta had his history intact, including the murder of Arthur Junior.
Mera's story where she went insane continued directly from before Crisis, as an effect of the murder.
All of Aquaman's enemies had also their stories intact and as a direct continuation from their previous appearances (like Thanatos, Fisherman, etc).

There was never a point in Aquaman's history that disqualified what came before, only some changes to fit in continuity and not change it.

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Originally posted by comicfan11
He had Time and Tide that was basically a 4 issue mini retelling of his earlier stuff.
They made some changes in his origin, but made it fit with all his previous stuff.
Aquaman was revealed to be a full Atlantean, but they made sure it doesn't disregard his previous stories, since he also had a surface father, but in this case he was just not his biological father.
They made it fit with all the previous stuff, while adding some some new ones.
And in both cases the timeline was preserved since Aquaman started his superhero actions at the same time more or less (after the death of his surface father).

Apart from that everything was the same.
Tempest had his story with Tula intact.
Ocean Master tried to take over Atlantis (as shown in the exactly same way in both cases).
Black Manta had his history intact, including the murder of Arthur Junior.
Mera's story where she went insane continued directly from before Crisis, as an effect of the murder.
All of Aquaman's enemies had also their stories intact and as a direct continuation from their previous appearances (like Thanatos, Fisherman, etc).

There was never a point in Aquaman's history that disqualified what came before, only some changes to fit in continuity and not change it.

So.....Aquaman never had his MAN OF STEEL.

Originally posted by Igniz
New 52 Aquaman reduces Thing into pebbles 😄

Ben would ROCK his world... And there'd be fish for dinner.

Originally posted by Delta1938
So.....Aquaman never had his MAN OF STEEL.

Nothing even close to being that drastic.
I think PAD actually went out of his way to ensure that AQ's continuity remained as unchanged as possible, despite COIE taking place. While I think Byrne's origin tried to take advantage of the opportunities the reboot offered.

Heck Time and Time came out in the 90's (many years after the reboot), with the logic being that if it was successful (as it was) it would lead to an Aquaman series.
It had nothing to do with completely rebooting the character and invalidating past history. It actually embraced and built on past continuity.

Bump

This is a stomp

😂 the ****

Originally posted by h1a8
This is a stomp

Timing for these bumps are entertaining.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/aquaman-vs-thing-9556/?page=2

Regardless AC. Physicals should be comparable factoring in Ben’s scaling. With AC having a speed advantage and being more than just a brick 🧱. Trident, Trident Powers and Mental powers.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Ben would ROCK his world... And there'd be fish for dinner.

I guess if Arthur takes Ben out for some Atlantean Cuisine after he feels bad for the beat down he gives Ben