Originally posted by abhilegendHere ya go. Hulk is obviously fast enough to keep up with Superman during a fight. Doesn't get much more clear cut than that. I wish I still had the comic, I'd post the whole fight. Superman barely beat a much weaker version of the Hulk even when he admitted that he wasn't holding back.
And where did they match in speed?
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/84205/1758922-hulk_beats_superman_l.jpg
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Here ya go. Hulk is obviously fast enough to keep up with Superman during a fight. Doesn't get much more clear cut than that. I wish I still had the comic, I'd post the whole fight. Superman barely beat a much weaker version of the Hulk even when he admitted that he wasn't holding back.http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/84205/1758922-hulk_beats_superman_l.jpg
You realise crossovers aren't canon, nor are they usable as evidence?
Not to mention the many upgrades and changes since those crossovers were made...
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Here ya go. Hulk is obviously fast enough to keep up with Superman during a fight. Doesn't get much more clear cut than that. I wish I still had the comic, I'd post the whole fight. Superman barely beat a much weaker version of the Hulk even when he admitted that he wasn't holding back.http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/84205/1758922-hulk_beats_superman_l.jpg
Also it was a very weak version of superman too. Its a bullshit comic where storm beats wonder woman, quicksilver keeps up with flash and wolverine beats lobo, so I'm not surprised. The fights were heavily marvel biased to the point it was laughable.
Originally posted by abhilegendNo, the fights were not biased.
A lot of people have kept up with superman in fights since he doesn't uses super-speed. That was just a slug fest where superman knocked hulk out.Also it was a very weak version of superman too. Its a bullshit comic where storm beats wonder woman, quicksilver keeps up with flash and wolverine beats lobo, so I'm not surprised. The fights were heavily marvel biased to the point it was laughable.
Originally posted by -Pr-The OP stipulated that this was a crossover rematch in the crossover universe. The physics of the crossover universe hasn't changed. This is one of the few times where crossover feats would be valid.
You realise crossovers aren't canon, nor are they usable as evidence?Not to mention the many upgrades and changes since those crossovers were made...
Originally posted by Brockalizer
The OP stipulated that this was a crossover rematch in the crossover universe. The physics of the crossover universe hasn't changed. This is one of the few times where crossover feats would be valid.
Oh, the op... Right.
So you want to use the same versions of the same characters for fights? What purpose does that serve?
Originally posted by -Pr-Again read the OP, it's the same characters but more recent versions and the victory conditions have been slightly tweaked. The point I was making earlier was that when those two fought previously Professor Hulk was able to stand toe with pre-reboot Superman. Now we have different versions of those two characters and I have seen plenty to indicate that Indestructible Hulk is significantly more powerful than Professor Hulk, but nothing to indicate that DCNU Superman is significantly more powerful than the pre-reboot version.
Oh, the op... Right.So you want to use the same versions of the same characters for fights? What purpose does that serve?
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Again read the OP, it's the same characters but more recent versions and the victory conditions have been slightly tweaked. The point I was making earlier was that when those two fought previously Professor Hulk was able to stand toe with pre-reboot Superman. Now we have different versions of those two characters and I have seen plenty to indicate that Indestructible Hulk is significantly more powerful than Professor Hulk, but nothing to indicate that DCNU Superman is significantly more powerful than the pre-reboot version.
Originally posted by abhilegend
What makes you believe Indestructible Hulk is more powerful than merged hulk. Merged hulk was fighting and taking Thor's lightning for over an hour, this hulk was knocked out by residual energy from Thor's body.
This Hulk was also tanking hits from Thor like weapons and its debatable if he was koed by residual energy.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Again read the OP, it's the same characters but more recent versions and the victory conditions have been slightly tweaked. The point I was making earlier was that when those two fought previously Professor Hulk was able to stand toe with pre-reboot Superman. Now we have different versions of those two characters and I have seen plenty to indicate that Indestructible Hulk is significantly more powerful than Professor Hulk, but nothing to indicate that DCNU Superman is significantly more powerful than the pre-reboot version.
So you want to basically make it current versions but keep the crossovers canon to them?
I really can't see that being doable.