All Out Sentry w/ Void VS Odin

Started by Warlord22 pages

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nobody knows the limits of the nornstones, so comparing odin to them is a dumb idea

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
News flash, MM is mentally unstable too! He's manifesting faux versions of Beyonder and Mephisto to talk to.

LoL... Which part of BOTH Owen and Bob are BIPOLAR and CRAZY didn't say that Owen was mentally unstable too?

Odin wins

Sentry at his best > MM or Galactus > Odin

Odin can't beat someone who can not only reform at will but can separate the atoms of Mjolnir, Adamantium, and Cap's shield like it's nothing.

Also, Silent is trolling. Batman having class 5 feats doesn't mean he is class 5 on average. On average =/= at best

Also Superman can only beat Odin if he does the combo to ko the moment the bell rings. But this scenario is not allowed and thus Odin will beat Superman.

Odin obviously.

Originally posted by h1a8
Sentry at his best > MM or Galactus > Odin

Odin can't beat someone who can not only reform at will but can separate the atoms of Mjolnir, Adamantium, and Cap's shield like it's nothing.

Also, Silent is trolling. Batman having class 5 feats doesn't mean he is class 5 on average. On average =/= at best

Also Superman can only beat Odin if he does the combo to ko the moment the bell rings. But this scenario is not allowed and thus Odin will beat Superman.

Posts scans of the Sentry separating the atoms of Mjolnir, Adamantium, and Cap's shield.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Posts scans of the Sentry separating the atoms of Mjolnir, Adamantium, and Cap's shield.
MM is able to, and Sentry overpowered him at his own game. So Sentry can overpower the power of separating such durable shyte.

Originally posted by h1a8
MM is able to, and Sentry overpowered him at his own game. So Sentry can overpower the power of separating such durable shyte.

You said that Sentry can "separate the atoms of Mjolnir, Adamantium, and Cap's shield like it's nothing." so post feats.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You said that Sentry can "separate the atoms of Mjolnir, Adamantium, and Cap's shield like it's nothing." so post feats.
He separated MM against his own power (which is the power to separate very durable shyte). Lifting a tank proves you can lift a car.

Originally posted by h1a8
He separated MM against his own power (which is the power to separate very durable shyte). Lifting a tank proves you can lift a car.

Skill also plays a part, something that has actually been stated in regards to transmuting the objects mentioned, so start posting feats that show the Sentry has both the power and skill needed to do what you're claiming.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Skill also plays a part, something that has actually been stated in regards to transmuting the objects mentioned, so start posting feats that show the Sentry has both the power and skill needed to do what you're claiming.

Separating atoms requires power (not skill), to overpower the bonds. Resembling atoms require skill. Living organisms is far more complex than non living materials. That is why MM had problems with it in the past. Sentry created a werewolf in his hands, reformed himself, and separated MM against his own power. This shows he not only has the skill but actual power to do. Transmuting matter in the sense you are using implies changing one substance into another. If separating a substance into pieces is transmuting then almost all comic characters can do it.

And you are going on record suggesting that Sentry can't separate the atoms of Adamantium when assuming his MM feat.

Originally posted by h1a8
Separating atoms requires power (not skill), to overpower the bonds. Resembling atoms require skill. Living organisms is far more complex than non living materials. That is why MM had problems with it in the past. Sentry created a werewolf in his hands, reformed himself, and separated MM against his own power. This shows he not only has the skill but actual power to do. Transmuting matter in the sense you are using implies changing one substance into another. If separating a substance into pieces is transmuting then almost all comic characters can do it.

And you are going on record suggesting that Sentry can't separate the atoms of Adamantium when assuming his MM feat.

Your first two examples hardly indicate the power or skill needed for messing with the objects in question and I question the third as it's not even a feat of transmutation.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your first two examples hardly indicate the power or skill needed for messing with the objects in question and I question the third as it's not even a feat of transmutation.
A living being is far more complex than a homogeneous material. That is why MM had problems with living matter in the past. Don't you read comics?

Also it doesn't take skill to separate since all it takes is to OVERPOWER THE ATOMIC BONDS. It takes skill to reassemble materials. Reassembling living organisms is far more complex than a uniform homogeneous material. And creating one from scratch is even more complex.

Originally posted by h1a8
A living being is far more complex than a homogeneous material. That is why MM had problems with living matter in the past. Don't you read comics?

Also it doesn't take skill to separate since all it takes is to OVERPOWER THE ATOMIC BONDS. It takes skill to reassemble materials. Reassembling living organisms is far more complex than a uniform homogeneous material.

Yet Sersi who is nowhere near as powerful as MM can easily transmute living materail.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yet Sersi who is nowhere near as powerful as MM can easily transmute living materail.
Because she does it through magic (iindirect means) and not by directly manipulating. But the converse of an argument need not be true.

Originally posted by h1a8
Because she does it through magic (iindirect means) and not by directly manipulating. But the converse of an argument need not be true.

Sersi doesn't use magic, she's an Eternal and transmutation is one of their powers.

Sersi powers and Eternals earth and titan are cosmic not mystical

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing

That's an unleashed side of MM he explains it here at the end of the book. The MM in Dark Avengers is a pacifist *****.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/101942/2035117-dark_avengers_011_pg_17.jpg

Compare MM in your scans with these two and you can see the difference. MM has two sides to himself. Even if he's at planetary level that's still far below Odin. If Void is as powerful is you claim then why would the Norn Stones harm him so much? Are the Norn Stones more powerful than the Fantastic Four Annual 27 Molecule Man? MM limits himself depending on his mental state. In Dark Avenger's he's hiding like a whimpering coward whereas the FF27 could've destroy a galaxy with the powers at his fingers. He was even more delusional then ever seeing as the beings around him (Dormammu, Beyonder, Mephisto, etc.) were merely projects of his mind telling him what to do.

But hey, let's ignore those instances where Sentry goes nuts and runs away from fights because of mental issues so it doesn't hurt his rep. We'll use an instance where MM is having his own mental issues which affects his powers and claim Sentry beat the same being that featured in FF27. Lol

I guess this means Torch is more powerful than Sentry?

Spot on WW; Sentry defeated a self restricted Molecule Man who was not even close to his Cube Beings levels. To take MM and Sentry out of context deliberately shouldn't beat reading comics.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Sersi powers and Eternals earth and titan are cosmic not mystical

Between this, Batman having above cl 5 strength and being faster than any human can respond to; it's getting to the point that I can't drink anything while reading his posts because I'm laughing too hard.