Exar Kun vs Darth Krayt

Then what the **** are you talking about?

The Star Wars tabletop RPG. Like D&D, only with Star Wars.

Oh.

Never played D&D.

In all seriousness:

Originally posted by XRKun
So Im assuming everyone thinks that Kun just outclasses Krayt and wins in all 3 categories.

I don't.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Exar Kun:

Destiny: 3 Force: 8 Dark Side: 15

Str - 17 Dex - 17 Con - 15 Int - 14 Wis - 15 Cha - 17

Revan:

Destiny: 4 Force: 8 Dark Side: 16

Str - 17 Dex - 17 Con - 14 Int - 15 (some genius) Wis - 18 Cha - 19

And they're the same level. Cheating bastard, he has 5 more stat points than Kun!

I recall that Kun did a better DPS though comparatively, so in a straight up fight he'd win 2/3 times. I have the guide at home, though it's been some time since I cracked it open.

And most of the Star Wars d20 supplementals are bizarre. There's not much stratification at level 20 either. Yoda, Sidious, Kun, Revan, Ragnos, and Sadow are all 20s, with relatively small differences except in the case of the last two who get very few feats and abilities and are basically considered dead in the setting.

This is actually a really good fight. I'd say Krayt is the martial artist while Exar Kun's the greater force wielder, considering he has his amulets. I'm not entirely sure on this one, I'll get back to it.

I do agree it's a good fight, should be epic. The amulets give Kun a lot of power in the force, to help make up for Krayt's much longer study in it.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I recall that Kun did a better DPS though comparatively, so in a straight up fight he'd win 2/3 times. I have the guide at home, though it's been some time since I cracked it open.

And most of the Star Wars d20 supplementals are bizarre. There's not much stratification at level 20 either. Yoda, Sidious, Kun, Revan, Ragnos, and Sadow are all 20s, with relatively small differences except in the case of the last two who get very few feats and abilities and are basically considered dead in the setting.

Emperor Roan Fel is level 20, while the highest level Jedi in the Legacy book is level 15 (Sazen, who tops the former grandmaster Kol for some reason). Shado Vao, who's fought the Sith Emperor's Hands and Antares Draco (level 15, and in the comic at least as strong if not stronger than Roan) on good terms, is level 10, and Darth Maleval, a Sith political officer and not a high commander of any sort, is level 13. Darth Nihl is level 16, higher than any Jedi in the book.

Originally posted by Nephthys

Also all the Sith are horribly overpowered and the Jedi all suck. The only good Jedi is Uliq. And even he is kind of crap. Why not have Nomi? Or Thon or whoever.

Huh, combined with the above, do the writers just underpower Jedi?

Considering in the Legacy book, both Imperial Knights and Sith well outpower the Jedi characters, even when in the comic the specific individuals are clearly on the same tier (and by that I mean they've had not just one but multiple battles that end in stalemates, so it's really, really established).

Saul Karath is a higher level than the Exile. :T

Apparently the best Jedi are Uliq and Bastila at level 17. Oh, and Vandar ****ing Tokare. Because he was clearly such a badass (**** whoever thought Vandar was better than the Exile. How many Sith Temples has he soloed you ****!?). The Sith get 5 level 20's (Kun, Revan, Malak, Traya + Nihilus) and Sion at level 19.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Saul Karath is a higher level than the Exile. :T

Apparently the best Jedi are Uliq and Bastila at level 17. Oh, and Vandar ****ing Tokare. Because he was clearly such a badass (**** whoever thought Vandar was better than the Exile. How many Sith Temples has he soloed you ****!?). The Sith get 5 level 20's (Kun, Revan, Malak, Traya + Nihilus) and Sion at level 19.

I really think either (a) the authors don't like Jedi, or (b) they assume the players will be Jedi and taking on the big bads, and therefore the Jedi are depowered to get out of their way.

I can kinda see Vandar being fairly high due to being the one assigned to retrain Revan and an important council member... but in terms of badassness, there's no excuse for the Exile being low.

The Legacy Sith have one 20, two 16s (though in Wyyrlok's case that's on the low side. Though it was put out before he got much role in the comic to be fair), two 15s, and even the fodder Maleval gets to be level 13.

The Jedi get to be 15, 14 (grand master of the Jedi order!), 10, and 10. One of the 10s being Jedi master Shado Vao.

Off-topic, but how exactly do you play the RPG? You just take a role as one of the characters and just do a turn-based offense?

Originally posted by The Merchant
Off-topic, but how exactly do you play the RPG? You just take a role as one of the characters and just do a turn-based offense?

It's basically a d20 version of Star Wars, or modified DnD ruleset. You need some imagination, Cheetos, Mountain Dew, a GM screen, dice, and enough guides to block a 50 cal bullet and you're set. KotOR is somewhat based on it, albeit very very watered down. Bioware made Neverwinter Nights prior to KotOR and that game is itself a d20 RPG. You can find it on GOG.com.

Sidious is the most powerful Sith Lord, but I do like your signature pic Stealth Moose. Though funnily enough, the thing that stands out most in it to me is that Palpatine is wearing dress pants under his robes as well as polished shoes. It's just... Hilarious!

Originally posted by The Merchant
Off-topic, but how exactly do you play the RPG? You just take a role as one of the characters and just do a turn-based offense?

You normally make your own character, and yes, turn-based action. With a person to preside, control all the NPCs, and also determine outcomes for odder actions.

Like, since it's in person, you wanna just toss that sealed can onto the open plasma torch and see if it explodes? Even if it was completely unplanned by the game master, you could.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Sidious is the most powerful Sith Lord, but I do like your signature pic Stealth Moose. Though funnily enough, the thing that stands out most in it to me is that Palpatine is wearing dress pants under his robes as well as polished shoes. It's just... Hilarious!

Yeah, that always struck me too. "Future sci fi epic! Dockers pants and dress shoes!"

Dockers were popular in the time of the New Sith Wars, and largely fell out of fashion after the Ruusian Reforms. Palpatine's pants, while merely archaic to some, hinted at his true allegiance...

Wow. That's pretty deep, considering we're discussing the pants of a fictional scrotum-faced character. 😐

But yeah, I just might give an edge to Krayt, here. Does he have his armor? Because that would seal the deal for me~

Op doesn't say. Either way has it's advantages (armor is obviously armor. Sans armor, he doesn't have to fight the implants and is even stronger in the force, and he picked up a few new tricks when he did).