People who aren't giving Cyke any credit obviously didn't read the Dark Phoenix saga, or the time period before Emma.
Also Thing wins this imo. Peter has "quit" being Spider-man too many times for my liking. While he can portray great heart (like he did fighting the P5) he has more mood swings than John Cena has haters.
Peter is a regular crimefighter/self appointed vigilante.
Thing is at best a reserve member of the avengers. The fantastic four dont fight crime or villains all year long.
Job=/=Family/Friend Ties
Peter having "mood swings" isnt comparable to Ben staying on friendly with thr richards/storm family as occasional adventurers.
Thing doesnt have a secret identity
Nor a significant other most of the times
Nor a career that started as a teenager
Nor a part time job outside of superheroics
Originally posted by OdekahnAlso Thing wins this imo. Peter has "quit" being Spider-man too many times for my liking. While he can portray great heart (like he did fighting the P5) he has more mood swings than John Cena has haters.
How many times has Ben blown up at Reed demanding to know why he hasn't come up with a cure for him? Presumably, so he could quit and continue a normal life. Usually Peter was juggling many things at once and the most times he quit were when he wasn't even 20 yet. Peter was the smartest guy his age he'd ever met, with super powers, and the whole world ahead of him. He's shown great commitment not quitting more times than he has. Most of his unsure moments came when he was still just a kid.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Peter is a regular crimefighter/self appointed vigilante.
Thing is at best a reserve member of the avengers. The fantastic four dont fight crime or villains all year long.Job=/=Family/Friend Ties
Peter having "mood swings" isnt comparable to Ben staying on friendly with thr richards/storm family as occasional adventurers.
Thing doesnt have a secret identity
Nor a significant other most of the times
Nor a career that started as a teenager
Nor a part time job outside of superheroics
Nor freaking college
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Peter is a regular crimefighter/self appointed vigilante.
Thing is at best a reserve member of the avengers. The fantastic four dont fight crime or villains all year long.Job=/=Family/Friend Ties
Peter having "mood swings" isnt comparable to Ben staying on friendly with thr richards/storm family as occasional adventurers.
Thing doesnt have a secret identity
Nor a significant other most of the times
Nor a career that started as a teenager
Nor a part time job outside of superheroics
Thing does not have a secret identity/significant other/outside job precisely because he looks like a freak, at least Spidey can take a break from his superheroics if he wants. Whereas Ben is pretty much stuck - and its probably worse considering Johnny Storm gets all the girls etc, and his own background as a high school jock etc.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thing does not have a secret identity/significant other/outside job precisely because he looks like a freak, at least Spidey can take a break from his superheroics if he wants. Whereas Ben is pretty much stuck - and its probably worse considering Johnny Storm gets all the girls etc, and his own background as a high school jock etc.
but theres always that underlying guilt making him come back
whereas Ben has no obligation to Vigilante
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Peter is a regular crimefighter/self appointed vigilante.
Thing is at best a reserve member of the avengers. The fantastic four dont fight crime or villains all year long.Job=/=Family/Friend Ties
Peter having "mood swings" isnt comparable to Ben staying on friendly with thr richards/storm family as occasional adventurers.
Thing doesnt have a secret identity
Nor a significant other most of the times
Nor a career that started as a teenager
Nor a part time job outside of superheroics
even the period during Emma (at least in the early stages) had plenty of examples.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thing does not have a secret identity/significant other/outside job precisely because he looks like a freak, at least Spidey can take a break from his superheroics if he wants. Whereas Ben is pretty much stuck - and its probably worse considering Johnny Storm gets all the girls etc, and his own background as a high school jock etc.
But thats exactly why Peter trumps him in that he couldve taken those but didnt.
Thing is ugly hence has no persisting love life, would actually be less successful or popular to society if he were to revert back to human.
While peter had genius intellect he couldve exploited had he not stayed as spider-man, had a fair amount of lovers, would in general have a better life in case he had quit permanently.
Don't be so hard on yourself
My first thread was Howard vs Rocket
Anyway I just needed this do I could post
Originally posted by jitaywhen I wake up tomorrow
There's this feat off Spidermans where he for sent back in time into his own body replacing the body that was there with his and had to redo a bunch off stuff one after the other no breakit went on for 4 pages I think
But I'm not sure it's canon, cos that would be an awesome durability/stubbornness feat
Originally posted by maxivitopoweJitay is correct but he doesn't remember the whole thing. Pete was stuck in time and in order to get back (he was looking for Dr. Strange) he had to repeat his greatest and toughest fights/feats. One after another, hundreds of battles non-stop. At the end of it all he was given the chance to fix history, prevent himself from being turned into Spider-man, save Ben, Gwen, George Stacey etc but chose not to because that could've also erased all the good he's done, and he couldn't turn away from his responsibilities and hope that some other hero would do it for him.
Don't be so hard on yourselfMy first thread was Howard vs Rocket
Anyway I just needed this do I could post when I wake up tomorrow
PS: That was one long way of me saying "Pete wins". 😛