Hulk has the potential to be physically stronger, but Hyperion has more tools in the box and greater versatility and flexibility. For example if Hulk were to engage an opponent and during the course of the fight the battle shifts to a considerably different environment, such as underwater or outer space, Hulk is S.O.L when he runs outta breath. Hyperion doesn't have that limitation.
Originally posted by BrockalizerArguably, neither does Savage Hulk.
Hulk has the potential to be physically stronger, but Hyperion has more tools in the box and greater versatility and flexibility. For example if Hulk were to engage an opponent and during the course of the fight the battle shifts to a considerably different environment, such as underwater or outer space, Hulk is S.O.L when he runs outta breath. Hyperion doesn't have that limitation.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
It can fluctuate, but in the past he has been taken down by things that wouldn't affect Hyperion. Knockout gas being the most notable example. If he didn't need to breath, it wouldn't have affected him.
You really don't have a point there, at all.
Hulk wins. Hyperion is nothing that Hulk hasn't smashed before. Just a stronger Gladiator/Thor. And Savage Hulk has fared perfectly well against them, so current Hulk against Hyperion shouldn't be a problem for Hulk at all.
Originally posted by BrockalizerHe breathes. Like most anybody else. And he's evolved to underwater and out space multiple times. Feel free to post scans showing Hyperion doesn't breathe and is immune to gas attacks.
It can fluctuate, but in the past he has been taken down by things that wouldn't affect Hyperion. Knockout gas being the most notable example. If he didn't need to breath, it wouldn't have affected him.
Originally posted by ODG
He breathes. Like most anybody else. And he's evolved to underwater and out space multiple times. Feel free to post scans showing Hyperion doesn't breathe and is immune to gas attacks.
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Originally posted by Brockalizer
Don't recall anyone every trying to gas him before so don't have any scans for that, but it is fairly obvious that he is capable of surviving in space without having to breath. If he can't breath in space I believe that he'd be the first Eternal, that couldn't. Though I could be wrong.http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/89/p236ad.jpg/
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So if I post scans of Hulk being in space unaided for a prolong amount of time, will you concede?
Originally posted by carver9I would concede the part about Hulk being limited to the battlefield conditions, unlike Abhilegend or H1A8 I am willing to consider other people's arguments. But as for the part about Hyperion having more tools to work with, I maintain my original stance.
So if I post scans of Hulk being in space unaided for a prolong amount of time, will you concede?
Originally posted by BrockalizerHyperion isn't an Eternal. And Hulk has breathed in space before also.
Don't recall anyone every trying to gas him before so don't have any scans for that, but it is fairly obvious that he is capable of surviving in space without having to breath. If he can't breath in space I believe that he'd be the first Eternal, that couldn't. Though I could be wrong.http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/89/p236ad.jpg/
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-chR8-gd4ydM/TeX3wxZblDI/AAAAAAAAA_8/HlHIlo_1nbA/s1600/Quasar-54-18.jpg
Either way, pointing out that Hulk has been affected by gas before isn't exactly cogent to the discussion. Superman, Thor and even Silver Surfer have been affected by gas also.
Originally posted by Reflassshh
no, he can't carv lol
Originally posted by ODG
[b]XXVII. HULK ABILITIESADAPTIVE EVOLUTION
Last but not least, the Hulk developed a variety of superpower abilities separate and distinct from his super strength. Having emerged from underwater, Banner discovers that his body can develop glands which produce an oxygenated perfluorocarbon emulsion that fills his lungs, equalizes pressure, permits him to breathe fluid, and avoids decompression and nitrogen narcosis. From Incredible Hulk vol.2 #77:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkEvolution01v277.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkEvolution02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkEvolution03.jpgThese adaptive evolutionary abilities are revisited in Incredible Hulk vol.3 #9:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkEvolution06v39.jpgS.H.I.E.L.D. data notes "that his mutation will somehow alter his body to adapt" even to a zero-atmosphere environment like outer space. From Incredible Hulk vol.2 #90:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkEvolution04v290.jpgSo hanging out on top of a space ship and fighting space pirates without a suit is not beyond his ability. From World War Hulk Prologue: Worldbreaker #1:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkEvolution05WWHPrologue1.jpg [/B]
