Ultraman Vs H'el

Originally posted by -Pr-
Why do you agree and then disagree in the same post?

Lol...I agree with your stance about H'el...I just disagree with who you are giving the majority too. Its debatable anyways so if you or anyone else wants to give H'el the win, I'm not disputing it.

I would guess H'el. But we don't really know H'el's true story (why can he do what Superman cannot...was Lex right in suggesting it is just because Superman won't let himself...or did those black holes and crap H'ell flew by evolve him somehow?) And we don't know for sure if Ultraman is at the same level as Superman, or if he surpasses it just after a Green K high.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Superman's not on Ultraman's level. Ultraman would probably rape him about as bad as he did Adam.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even if that came as true, superman has an in built explanation. Ultraman is powered by kryptonite and that would weaken superman. If superman beats Ultraman, it would be just beastly.

Only if it gets mentioned as a factor. In which case the beating would be even more horrendous. If not, we can assume that the writer wasn't intending for the fight to be decided by weakness exploitation.

Now, if Superman beats Ultraman, and on top of that Ultraman supposedly weakens Superman just by being near him, that would be something.

Ultraman wins.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Only if it gets mentioned as a factor. In which case the beating would be even more horrendous. If not, we can assume that the writer wasn't intending for the fight to be decided by weakness exploitation.

Now, if Superman beats Ultraman, and on top of that Ultraman supposedly weakens Superman just by being near him, that would be something.

H'el. And it's not close. And even if somehow it is, Ultraman has to deal with the sun. Moving the moon wasn't enough.

Ultraman seems to inhale Kryptonite and use it to empower himself. That doesn't mean he radiates it to the point it negatively effects Superman. He's not like Metallo.

Otherwise you might as well say Superman can only hurt Ultraman because his body is full of Solar energy and that's his weakness.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Ultraman seems to inhale Kryptonite and use it to empower himself. That doesn't mean he radiates it to the point it negatively effects Superman. He's not like Metallo.

Otherwise you might as well say Superman can only hurt Ultraman because his body is full of Solar energy and that's his weakness.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Why? Do we really need to be reminded that kryptonite weakens superman?

Point missed.I don't get the preemptive measures to save face your boy, since losing to Ultraman isn't exactly a low showing if he continues at this level of power, but just because he inhales Kryptonite to get his powers, doesn't mean he radiates it or that he can weaken Superman with it.

Even if that were the case, Superman would then weaken Ultraman because of the solar energy in his body anyway so it would even out. Into a horrendous beating for Superman.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Ultraman seems to inhale Kryptonite and use it to empower himself. That doesn't mean he radiates it to the point it negatively effects Superman. He's not like Metallo.

Otherwise you might as well say Superman can only hurt Ultraman because his body is full of Solar energy and that's his weakness.

Yuh be stealin my thundah mon.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Point missed.I don't get the preemptive measures to save face your boy, since losing to Ultraman isn't exactly a low showing if he continues at this level of power, but just because he inhales Kryptonite to get his powers, doesn't mean he radiates it or that he can weaken Superman with it.

Even if that were the case, Superman would then weaken Ultraman because of the solar energy in his body anyway so it would even out. Into a horrendous beating for Superman.

Yuh be stealin my thundah mon.

He'l was never really trying to hurt Superman while Clark was going at full force against him and He'l casually got rid of him with 1 punch about 3 times.

I say He'l.

I would be shocked as H'el if Ultraman managed to beat him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its not a preemptive measure. Its how Ultraman/Superman dynamic works.

So they weaken each other? I'd like to see some scans.