Originally posted by Zack FairBased on how he was tearing through Asgardians like Doomsday was tearing through Improved probes and how it took a singularity to finally beat him. He gets impaled through the chest with a sword and Nurse's reaction was basically "seriously!?!" Movie Thor would give MOS a run for his money, not saying Thor would beat him, but it would be a good fight. Thor fighting Kurse was like Ronda Roussey fighting a cracked out Kain Velasquez.
How does he stomp?
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Based on how he was tearing through Asgardians like Doomsday was tearing through Improved probes and how it took a singularity to finally beat him. He gets impaled through the chest with a sword and Nurse's reaction was basically "seriously!?!" Movie Thor would give MOS a run for his money, not saying Thor would beat him, but it would be a good fight. Thor fighting Kurse was like Ronda Roussey fighting a cracked out Kain Velasquez.
You're joking right?
Clark's first run as Superman had him hitting mountains with no damages been done to him whatsoever.
Taking on Faora and Nonat the same time.
Surviving a gravity base weapon that weakens him.
Escaping the pull of a black hole.
Then look at his fight against Zod.
Kurse did nothing that puts him on Kal league, let alone his radar.
Kurse was stomping Thor before a black hole was opened on his body. I agree with Rage that the circumstances around the singularity in Thor and MOS were different. Thor was shown having no defense to Kurse in their brief skirmish. I think Kurse would beat MOS.
Side Note: How the hell are they going to show Kurse as that much more formidable than The Destroyer?
A point is being made in the movie vs forum that Kurse was invulnerable only to asgardian weaponry and that it was the reason he no sold everything asgardian while Loki managd to pierce him like tissue with eflish weaponry.
I still think Kal is too much for Kurse even if we assume he will be as tough against Kal as he was against Thor.
Too fast, too tough and Kal had incredible stamina in MoS. Oh yeah flight too and heat vision.
I don't see Kal losing. Would still be a cool fight. I wanted Thor and Kurse to go at it for a longer time. Like Supes vs Zod.
Originally posted by SquallX
You're joking right?Clark's first run as Superman had him hitting mountains with no damages been done to him whatsoever.
Taking on Faora and Nonat the same time.
Originally posted by SquallXSo, Thor flew directly into a disintegrator beam with little or now damage in the first movie.
Surviving a gravity base weapon that weakens him.
Originally posted by SquallX
Escaping the pull of a black hole.
Originally posted by SquallXSnyder-Zod wasn't that impressive. Donner-Zod would've made all four Kryptonians kneel and beg for mercy. I highly doubt that Superman would've casuallyt swatted Mjolnir aside the way Kurse did. MOS Superman exerted himself lifting part of an oil rig more than Kurse did lifting and throwing a solid, possibly heavier, chunk of rock.
Then look at his fight against Zod.Kurse did nothing that puts him on Kal league, let alone his radar.
Originally posted by BrockalizerThor flew directly into the beam with mjolnir. That doesn't add to his overall durability. Unless you're saying he could do same as Supes with Mjolnir n' stuff. Then yes I agree. Kal gets the chops because he was getting weaker every passing second. To the point he could barely fly at times.
The same Faora and Nonat that writhed in pain because they couldn't handle the noise. Nonat got knocked on his butt by machine gun fire for crissakes.So, Thor flew directly into a disintegrator beam with little or now damage in the first movie.
Superman wasn't inside the event horizon, so it's not that impressive. Thor was outside the event horizon as well and wasn't even budged.
Snyder-Zod wasn't that impressive. Donner-Zod would've made all four Kryptonians kneel and beg for mercy. I highly doubt that Superman would've casuallyt swatted Mjolnir aside the way Kurse did. MOS Superman exerted himself lifting part of an oil rig more than Kurse did lifting and throwing a solid, possibly heavier, chunk of rock.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
A point is being made in the movie vs forum that Kurse was invulnerable only to asgardian weaponry and that it was the reason he no sold everything asgardian while Loki managd to pierce him like tissue with eflish weaponry.
That's the most retarded argument I've ever heard. Not once was that suggested.
First of all, the Kursed were not immune to Asgardian weaponry (We ignoring the opening sequence?), Algrim was just that powerful for some reason. And Loki piercing Kurse with an Elven blade is no different from him being able to pierce Thor with Asgardian steel. There steel is apparently just that potent.
Unless Superman is going to get his hands on these weapons, I don't understand it's relevancy.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Nonat got knocked on his butt by machine gun fire for crissakes.
So? It did no visible damage.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Snyder-Zod wasn't that impressive. Donner-Zod would've made all four Kryptonians kneel and beg for mercy. I highly doubt that Superman would've casuallyt swatted Mjolnir aside the way Kurse did. MOS Superman exerted himself lifting part of an oil rig more than Kurse did lifting and throwing a solid, possibly heavier, chunk of rock.
The Oil Rig should have weighed far more. And Namek threw a train car across the entirety of a city.
Ultimately, Superman's and Kurse's strength seem comparable and Kurse has shown to be bale to react to Superman-esque speeds. It's a good fight but I favor Superman due tho his higher mobility.
I can't see how people say Kurse was more powerful then destroyer, Thor only defeated the destroyer by using Mjolnir to force the destroyer beam into it own body.
Superman appeared to around the same durability as Thor from what was shown in Thor2
We yet to see a clear show of strength from Thor lifting wise We did see him easily toss a car around in avergers and stop hulks punches pretty well but i would guess his strength is close enough to Supermans seeing he best strength feat was bracing against the oil rig granted he didn't have the full weighton him.
As far as speed goes Mjolnir was moving uber fast and Kurse reacted with ease to stop it something Sthrength was i can't see Superman doing.
Originally posted by Zack FairYour right the brusies and scatches have it Supermans durability is way higher, Superman and Thor to very comparable hits from heavy objects and both had trouble getting up a few times, from what i have seen in both movies.
Don't see how you gather Thor being near Superman's durability from the movie. Thor got bruises and scratches throughout the movie.Superman got none.
Thor is easier to bleed I guess but ultimately I'd say can take a punch or energy blast and get back right up similar to Superman. So pretty much how comic portrayals go I guess lol.
I'll watch the movie again in about two hours but I think the only one who messed him up was Kurse but the dude was a monster. Still, Thor didn't get knocked out IIRC.
Originally posted by ODGNo one even suggested this. Are you hallucinating?
I don't see how anybody could think Superman could casually slap aside a soaring Mjolnir like that. That was easily the most impressive thing Kurse did. I mean, I haven't even really seen that happen in comics, much less the movies.
With that said. I do believe Superman could have done the same thing. Here is my reasoning.
Mjolnir returning to Thor is far weaker than Thor throwing it for attack. Kurse hit it away when it was trying to return to Thor's hand and not when Thor threw it at him for attack. Now if Kurse hit it away after Thor threw it at him then I would be impressed. But Superman's strength feats suggests he can do the same. Hell Zoara casually and effortlessly threw Superman over a mile away through construction and buildings and made him severely dent a steel safe. Also Kal destroyed a freaking giant spaceship while weakened and going against super gravity.