Kimura vs Wolverine vs Sabretooth vs X-23

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Originally posted by StyleTime
True, but he could've done the same to her with his other hand. Or de-limbed her. Or decapitated her. She has no adamantium skeleton, so Wolverine has fight ending options that Laura doesn't.

From that position? She could've sliced him open before any of that.

You're talking 'what is possible for him to do in a fight,' I'm talking 'would be casually easy from that specific position before he could do something about it.'

I'm actually curious why you peg her as faster

No adamantium skeleton. She's thus lighter, needs to move less mass around.

It would be logical to think that? But then again, Wolverine actually has massively higher speed feats than her.

Originally posted by KingD19
It would be logical to think that? But then again, Wolverine actually has massively higher speed feats than her.

She's got his DNA, meaning she's got his mutant power enhanced speed, and when side-by-side or head to head he hasn't shown better speed.

Even with Wolverine retracting his claws, it's not like she got all those hits because he liked being cut.

He's caught both of her hands and stated he's faster, good enough for me 😛

Originally posted by Q99
From that position? She could've sliced him open before any of that.

You're talking 'what is possible for him to do in a fight,' I'm talking 'would be casually easy from that specific position before he could do something about it.'

No adamantium skeleton. She's thus lighter, needs to move less mass around.


Which would do nothing, while de-limbing her would basically end the fight. Wolverine wins that trade, every time.

He could do that with the same ease honestly, and with a much more significant attack.

Feats say otherwise. This isn't the real world, and being lighter doesn't always mean faster anyway.

Originally posted by Q99
She's got his DNA, meaning she's got his mutant power enhanced speed, and when side-by-side or head to head he hasn't shown better speed.

Even with Wolverine retracting his claws, it's not like she got all those hits because he liked being cut.


He looked faster when he caught both of her hands. Otherwise, they've come off as equals in direct encounters.

True. She got the hits because that's how much he cares about her. 😛

Which would do nothing, while de-limbing her would basically end the fight.

Do nothing except make Wolverine spend a few seconds recovering, probably freeing her and giving her more time to attack.

And Wolverine wasn't in a position to de-limb her, she was in a position to disembowl him, or cut his legs open, or such with a small motion.

And, no, de-limbing her wouldn't end the fight. Cut off one arm and she's got claws on three additional limbs. She's been de-limbed before.

Feats say otherwise. This isn't the real world, and being lighter doesn't always mean faster anyway.

Generally means at least more agile. And, clone. She has his powers, and even his weapon X training.

True. She got the hits because that's how much he cares about her.

Riiight, he looked mad and attacked back even, but was just letting her attack...? Sorry, not buying it.

Additionally, she had no problem landing precise hits on Lady Deathstrike either, another highly skilled regenerator who's given Logan plenty of problems.

Originally posted by Q99
Do nothing except make Wolverine spend a few seconds recovering, probably freeing her and giving her more time to attack. And Wolverine wasn't in a position to de-limb her, she was in a position to disembowl him, or cut his legs open, or such with a small motion.

And, no, de-limbing her wouldn't end the fight. Cut off one arm and she's got claws on three additional limbs. She's been de-limbed before.

Generally means at least more agile. And, clone. She has his powers, and even his weapon X training.

Riiight, he looked mad and attacked back even, but was just letting her attack...? Sorry, not buying it.

Additionally, she had no problem landing precise hits on Lady Deathstrike either, another highly skilled regenerator who's given Logan plenty of problems.


That wouldn't necessarily stop his attack, even if she somehow landed first, rather than trading with him. Considering he was fast enough to catch both hands, he could've chopped them off instead.

He needs one swipe, and X-23 is armless(or headless). I said "basically" end the fight, because she'd be at an insurmountable disadvantage at that point. Wolverine can continue to delimb her throughout the fight, or decapitate her. It takes all of her limbs to fight him even when he's holding back.

She's a still maturing clone that lacks Wolverine's feats, skill or otherwise. She doesn't get a pass.

He attacked twice, stood there, sometimes not even looking at her, and retracted his claws. What is so hard to buy here?

Cool.